Can we agree that the Arizona Audit is a joke?

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Which we know will be biased in favour of finding problems
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    One thing all this points out, is how very difficult it is to 'steal' an American Presidential election. The fact that nothing is uniform, nothing centralized among the fifty states and all their counties makes it very unlikely. Even assuming someone only targets 10 swing states, the ballots are different the counting systems and software are different using diverse machines and programs. And they are always in the middle of replacing and upgrading in some of those counties and polling sites. States and counties contract for equipment and services based on different criteria and budgets chosen by different agencies and standards. The bureaucracies are further divided/ separated by county administration and state administration,. The laws governing behavior, access and timing are different. The staff and leadership are inevitably different. Imagine how many people you have to corrupt/bribe/ coerce in Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina, Florida, Arizona, Texas, Colorado, Georgia, Maine, Michigan, and Wisconsin from the elections commissions to the secretary of state, to the minions collecting the actual ballots or the techies programing the tabulation. If the French system for example is centralized and uniform, all you have to do is exploit one weakness in that program, in that system, and corrupt the right few people in the right few places. Here, you have to individualize and multiply that effort, so much in so many jurisdictions to impact the results across so many borders.

    All this chaos, where it takes some states, and counties days or weeks longer to tabulate and document the count can make it look like an inept amateurish mess, and that is absolutely guaranteed to be true in some jurisdictions (others will be models!) with a lack of uniform standards, but it is real hard to rig successfully.
     
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    What on earth do you think a router could show? It has no data memory.

    What about the keyboards? Huh? What are they hiding?
     
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    This is true, it was very difficult and risky. Your post would explain why the Democrats are trying to nationalize many of the methods which we are calling into question through the HR-1 bill. Because that would make it far more uniform and easy to exploit.
     
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    Actually, those are not the kind of routers they use and their objection is the cost of replacing them, $6 million because the county can't just shut down completely for this witch hunt.
     
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    I did not say they were, lol. But feel free to tell us what kind they did use.

    All I am saying here is that the reason THEY gave for not turning them over was that they contain sensitive data. Take it up with Maricopa County if you don’t believe their excuse.
     
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    It's a joke that should be taken seriously. An attempt by the Trump Party to undermine democracy.
     
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    Mind you that the requests for donations keep on coming. Fundtheaudit.com
     
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    That is the heart of the matter.

    If the election were legit, the Dems would be happy to have the audit to prove the legitimacy.

    It wasn't legit, and everybody knows it.
     
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    They don't understand what could be there that the county needs to spend, they say, $6 million to replace them because the county is neither going to shut down all operations for them nor use passwords to their systems that are on them and there is nothing there. If they want a look see go to their offices.

    They are trying to pretend the Republican establishment there is blocking them because after 300,000 ballots they got nothing. FILES WERE DELETED! No they weren't you didn't access correctly. THE SKY IS RED! Nope, still blue. THEY ERASED EVERYTHING! Not at all but we are a little worried as to what you'll do.
     
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    An important point. The board of supervisors did the previous alleged audit are the same ones fighting tooth and nail to stop a forensic audit.
     
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    Again, the election board is 4 Republicans and 1 Democrat. That Democrat couldn't stop a damn thing. What Democrats and the Republican board are worried about is insane people making up stuff.
     
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    LOL, what they are worried about is the truth coming out. That's why they are raising so many obstacles.

    Liz Cheney is but one Republican who hated Trump. There are many.
     
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    I've said it before. He's got game. A billionaire that can get non-billionaires to send him money. Wow.
     
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    Yes, there are many and that is why Biden won by 8 million.
     
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    That assumes that they use the same set of routers for day-to-day operations and don't have a separate set of routers as a part of their election equipment. I don't see where that's been claimed. It's certainly NOT what Maricopa County claimed. They said nothing about having to shut down operations. They claimed there was sensitive data on them.
     

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