CDC Warns It Expects Coronavirus to Spread in U.S

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  1. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Read what, specifically, the part where you self diagnosed influenza without a test ?
     
  2. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    It would help your understanding of the conversation if you bothered to track back on the conversation instead of jumping in!
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I’ve lived through an era ripe with Scarlet Fever, Whooping Cough, Mumps, Chicken Pox, Measles, Diphtheria, Malaria, and Polio, and never saw the absurd hysteria taking place now.
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All of my conclusions are rational thought based on fact. BTW, are you still asserting more will get sick and die from COVID-19 than influenza? And do you include children and the healthy?
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Tell us about your self diagnosis of influenza A again.
    It should be a very interresting highlight of the conversation
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    The same "hysteria" happened during swine flu.

    Just some headlines:
    Swine flu 'not stoppable,' World Health Organization says June 2009
    Swine Flu 2009: Are We Facing a Pandemic? 2,726 views May 5, 2009

    April 26, 2009

    Tracking Swine Flu
    United States officials declared a public health emergency on Sunday over increasing cases of swine flu, but continued to urge Americans not to panic on Monday, as most of the cases have been mild

    Swine flu: 65,000 deaths is UK's worst case scenario July 2009

    UK newspapers' representations of the 2009–10 outbreak of swine flu: one health scare not over-hyped by the media? BMJ 2010

    Swine flu: pandemic declared by WHO
    The first flu pandemic for 40 years has been officially declared by the World Health Organisation. June 2009

    Teen is swine flu's first victim in London as ministers warn 40 a day could die by end of summer July 2009
     
  7. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    So why you all hyped up about this cold virus?
     
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    Have you forgotten or ignored that you wrote this "Nobody said all but you". ? So why don't you comment on that subject, the subject that is being discussed. So answer this - is every case of mild flu reported to doctors?
     
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    Who said all? That's silliness

    How could one report influenza to a doctor?
    How does one know they've had influenza A unless they have been to the doctor and had the test?

    But, lots of influenza-A tests are routinely run by doctors and have been for a long time.
    Nobody has been running the new corona virus test until very recently and only very sporadically
     
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    Where did I say I am? Correcting all the misinformation and lies from posters and Trump about vaccines, antivirals, flight bans, death rates etc is nothing about being hyped up about this 'flu' virus
     
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    It's a cold virus.
    Corona virus is a very common cold virus.
    It's been around a long time
     
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    "Who said all? That's silliness" Exactly! If you bothered to read back on the debate you would see that AFM said that not all mild cases of coronavirus are reported unlike flu.
     
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    I don't remember ever seeing 20% of residents in one home dying from a cold in one week
     
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    his point is valid.
    There are tons of flu cases reported, mild and severe, so the stats are much better for determining deaths per number infected, and even then it is an over estimation as not all infections are reported. The stats on corona virus have been based primarily on severe cases only, so the number of deaths per reported infection will appear to be much higher than the actual rate of deaths per number of infections.

    And you apparently have self diagnosed influenza-A, which is a cool trick. How'd you do that?
     
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    Does that not make corona virus one of the common cold viruses that have been in existence for a long time?

    Our hospitals are filled with tens of thousands of patients dying from common respiratory viruses ever year at this time. Most are untyped.
    The natural annual death rate of an 85 year old is 20%. Nursing home patients routinely die from respiratory illness, every day. That's why they're in homes, just waiting for the grim reaper to appear
     
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    one person infect 50 people in NYC, and part of town is now quarantine. people were saying its measly flu or cold? do you quarantine part of NY if its flu or cold. did governor ever declare state of emergency for a flu or cold ? now we got at least 18 state doing that.

    now it sound more like "outbreak" the movie than say a common cold or flu.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/11/us/new-rochelle-attorney-containment-area/index.html

    apparently National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases don't think its just a common flu or cold, gee who would thought

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/11/poli...virus-is-about-to-change-your-life/index.html

     
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    None of your long winded post has anything to support the claim that all mild flu cases are reported!
     
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    Only proves how insane the world has become, not how deadly this puny virus is. As-well-as how corrupt government agencies are.

    Johns Hopkins doesn’t view it as a viral Armageddon.
     
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    Those all happened before the internet and 24 hour TV.
     
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    sure, if the government don't do something when tens thousands people start dying, who do you think gonna get the blame. the thing about the virus is better to be safe than sorry. its unpredictable. currently over 1000 US school are closed, affect 776,000 student.
     
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    Again, only proves how low rationality has sunk and blind emotion has risen.
     
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    yet, travel couldn't be more easier now, also internet, tv, higher population density.
     
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    It's been that way in this country, and the world, long before COVID.
     
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    At the end, I wonder if the overall death rate for the elderly will rise or remain constant. Then we’ll know, did we lock up the living and destroy their economic lives to stop the dead from dying, or did we do it to postpone tears and give the dying a couple of extra months. Are we sacrificing the living to the dying?
     
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    I've known guys like you, fearless. One of them held the beer drinking urination duration record in high school @ 3 minutes 47 seconds. He flew dustoff in Vietnam, then moved to Arizona and became a multi-millionaire.

    I'm one of those he who hesitates is lost guys, cautious but not too lost.
     

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