Dealing with anti-trans bullying

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  1. Turtledude

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    we will agree to disagree. I have always wondered one thing though-if the way men and women dressed was exactly the same, would there be any difference in this trans issue?
     
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    The Unitarian church shooter in Knoxville. Multiple pro-life terrorists. The two Boogaloo murderers. The FEAR group. The two murderers in Las Vegas who were too right wing for even the Bundys. The Trump supporter who tried to murder FBI agents. Depending on how far you want to go back, there's also Eric Rudolph. There was also another foiled attempt on the FBI and a foiled attempt to murder illegal immigrants and border patrol agents recently, both Trump supporters.
     
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    ... and why is it always men "trans-ing" their way onto women's sports teams and into women's locker/shower rooms?? Why is it never the other way around?
     
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    It is the other way around, but Fox can't get enough hate out of that, so they don't focus on it.
     
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    Good question-I certainly have no problem with girls who get "adadiktome" surgeries boxing against real men or playing full contact with the boys on the high school football team
     
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    who complains if an XX wants to compete against the boys in the basketball league? how many XXs ever win a male weightlifting or body building contest? but XYs have WON in women's weightlifting competitions and yes, in a beauty pageant!! (which tells little girls that no matter how hard you try to be an athlete or a beauty queen, a man can do that better)
     
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    There is no "transitioning" or "de-transitioning". The natural order is male and female (man and woman).
     
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    Uh..the trans issue has absolutely nothing to do with physically attacking Christians? Where did you even get this?

    Yes that's true. What is the relevance of this to trans issues here in America?

    Thinking there's a man in the sky who created the entire universe, knows everything, controls fate, but also gives you free will, and is everywhere all at once all the time and even talks to his humans occasionally sounds much more like a mental illness when not constrained to the pages of a fiction novel. So I believe there is room in this world for a little tolerance and understanding. Plus, the pot really shouldn't be calling the kettle black when it comes to mental illness.
     
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    Any other irrelevant questions for me? You still haven't answered the one I asked you.
     
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    There is no such thing as "being trans". The natural order is male and female. That's it. It's a binary system. Mutilating one's genitals doesn't change the fact that one is a man or a woman. All it does is harm the person.
     
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    And you are welcome to that belief. There are many exceptions in nature, including in our own species.
     
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    It already IS a religion... it is a part of the Church of Depravity.
     
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    I actually agree with this. Your physical gender will never change, your DNA, your chromosomes, none of it will ever change with available transitional medical tech. You will always be your birth gender no matter how you feel or what work you have done to you.

    But we don't actually care about birth gender, because we can't actually see birth gender without sophisticated and invasive medical technology. Instead, we care about you acting the way you look. If you look like a man, you're supposed to act like a man. If you look like a woman, you're supposed to act like a woman, even if we have absolutely no idea what the genetic makeup of that person actually is.
     
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    Durr durr durr
     
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    Yup, they're both religions. One is the Church of Depravity; the other is Christianity (or any other religion involving a "Sky Daddy"). One outright denies science while the other simply makes claim to "miracles" in some instances.
     
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    All the stories that I see are about men "trans-ing" onto women's teams... never of women "trans-ing" onto men's teams... I mean, I'm sure you could frantically Google search and dig up an example or two, but this issue is overwhelmingly "man to woman". Why do you suppose that is? Wouldn't you think that it would be closer to 50/50 (meaning, just as many women "trans-ing" onto men's sports teams as men "trans-ing" onto women's sports teams)

    Why do you think that I watch Fox News? I don't waste my time with ANY fake news media, and that INCLUDES Fox News...
     
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    Science is not "a belief".

    Abnormalities are not the norm (or the general rule). Let's stick with discussing the norm... You know, the way that things happen in principle, IOW, the way that things happen in 99.9% of all cases.
     
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    QED
     
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    I'm sorry if you think that the news bubble you've trapped yourself in is a representative sample.
     
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    What you are talking about is a misrepresentation of science. And, yes exceptions disprove the rule. If there are exceptions, then the rules isn't actually a rule.
     
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    That sounds a lot like, "There is no heliocentric. The natural order is the sun and stars move around the earth."
     
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    So a cis woman who looks like a man should act like a man even though shes a woman by both sex and gender?
     
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    Projection. Your issue, not mine.
     
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    That's apparently what the standard is since nobody outside of a lab can actually see your birth gender.
     
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    But there are plenty of beliefs about what science supposedly shows, as shown by the heliocentric vs geocentric example I gave earlier. Even now, we are learning what we believed science showed was not right, in learning that dinosaurs were not reptiles, but the earlier precursor to avians.

    Yeah, no sh** Sherlock. Left handed is not the norm either.

    Keeping with the above, that's like trying to dismiss left handed and ambidextrous people exist by saying they are not the norm and you only want to talk about right handed, IOW the way things happen in 99% of all cases. The entire point is that transgender people are not the norm.
     

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