Disney sues Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis over loss of special district

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  1. cd8ed

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    How has Disney committed securities fraud?

    Didn’t the appointed board for the governor attempt to dissolve a contract with Disney?
     
  2. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah, a YouTube video!
    Is that really your source?

    Really?
     
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    Looks like DeSantis delivered the KO blow to Disney!
     
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    A youtube video that consists of a Florida attorney that practiced this specific area of law breaking down exactly the issues with Disney's lawsuit. Yes. This youtube video is a far more valid source of information than anything you've looked at, concerning this case.

    It's always amazing that people like you dismiss information, simply because it is on Youtube.
     
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  5. ToughTalk

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    Disney should worry more about reconnecting with it's audience instead of jamming this "black little mermaid" **** down our throats. Or making another trilogy around Rey Skywalker...lol

    Does anyone even watch any of their avengers ****? The only movie I watched after End Game was No Way Home and that was because of nostalgia for Tobey and Andrew.

    Disney is a hot ****ing mess right now. Their stock has sucked the bag since End Game times...and based on their planned releases, I can't see this getting any better.

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    I think there are rumors floating around that they are bringing back Chris Evans and RDJ. But I don't think even those two could save the day this time. I'm fairly certain they will bring back characters like RDJ to help prop up the new Iron Man diversity hire. No thanks. Not interested.

    You don't get to erase white people (specifically white men) while at the same time retaining your white audience. That's not how this works. I would suspect black people would feel the same if you were purposefully going around erasing all their hero's and characters as well.
     
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    Oh I know I'm not the target audience but this isn't "hey we are going to make a fairy tale revolving around a black girl..." no no no, this is "we are going to replace the white girl with a black girl because we can't come up with a new idea"

    The first would be ok. The second is insulting. You don't get to insult 50 percent of your target audience without any blow back. That's just reality.

    Disney's stock has sucked ass since End Game. End Game had all the diversity you could ask for but it wasn't shoved down it's audience's throats. Now their stock sucks. They are ******** the bed because of black mermaids and lesbian kissing while defending the right to "say gay" to children K-grade 3.

    Couldn't be happier that they are ******** the bed atm.
     
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  7. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then this movie should fail spectacularly, and proper balance will be restored to your world.
     
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    Well...as you can see by the length of their stock drop versus what they have in store for their fans, it would seem that Disney needs further education with regards to their audience's interests.

    Take the announced Rey Skywalker trilogy. Did anyone ask for that? Does anyone want that?

    Disney will have to do the slow burn and figure out what works and what doesn't work. They are being thick headed and stuck in their ways and it shows. Eisner even said that Disney shouldn't have gotten into politics.
     
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    Yes, I dismiss videos. Always. Every time
    As to every other source is invalid, constitutional scholars and major legal firms have already weighed in on this.

    So do tell — in your own words — how has Disney committed securities fraud?
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are 100% free to not spend your money at Disney. Disney is free to hire anyone they want for any part they want movie they want.

    You are free to speak out about government in any way you want. The government is forbidden from retaliating. Disney, per citizen’s united, has the same right.

    Isn’t America fabulous?
     
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    They are not one and the same — they benefit Disney by allowing them to expedite work.

    That board was replaced because of Disneys words — that is the first amendment violation. Them trying to revoke an agreement the board made with Disney in accordance with the laws in Florida are the basis of the contracts clause in the constitution.

    You are going to LOVE how this case progresses.
     
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    Absolutely. And eventually...they will learn. They may be slower to the draw then Budweiser, but they will get there.
     
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  13. KnightoNi1894

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    Keep thinking that bud. I'm sure, you'll freely admit that you were wrong once the federal case is dismissed and Florida wins the state case. You do understand that when Florida wins the state case that the federal case will be dismissed, likely for lack of standing, right? If you think the federal court is going to set the precedent that every hoa gets to make their own rules that override state law, you're delusional.
     
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    No state law was overridden
    Florida attacked Disney due to their speech — that you think the courts not only will but should allow such an egregious assault upon constitutional rights is disturbing.
     
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    Way to say you don't understand the issues here.

    The Reedy Creek could not give Disney the powers it purports to have given to Disney. Disney attempted to make itself a HOA by entering into "restrictive covenants" and is attempted to bind the Central Florida Tourism Board to the agreement. Disney attempted to give itself governmental powers by making itself its own HOA. HOAs can not override local government. Ever.

    Desantis is not the right person for Disney to sue. Again, the Florida legislature has done nothing to Disney. At all. If Disney actually wanted to have an attempt at a valid legal complaint; they would need to sue the Central Florida Tourism Board, not the Florida legislature. The Central Florid Tourism board is the entity that is showing that Disney failed to follow the proper procedures in regards even attempting to enter into said restrictive covenants. Disney, through Reedy Creek, failed to notify all residents of Reedy Creek before attempting to enter into the covenants.

    The Florida Legislature and Ron Desantis have, again, in no way injured Disney. The fact that you fail to understand that just goes to show that you fail to understand the fundamental issues here.
     
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    Can you cite the law that says the board had to notify each and every person for this to be valid because they did abide by the proper notice period.

    They are also suing the new board, for you to be so informed on this how did you not know that?

    As to ron not harming Disney, he replaced the entire board with hostile members due to Disneys speech. You might not understand that — or you might not care — but our courts typically stand against targeted harassment by governments. That he has also threatened toll roads, a prison, and new hotel taxes shows what his intentions are.

    I love that fascists can never keep their mouth shut. They are so proud of what they are doing that they want it known and this gave Disney all the evidence it needs to eviscerate him in court.

    But thanks so much for your opinion
     
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    Sure can.

    Florida Local Government Development Agreement Act, §§ 163.3225 (2)(a), Fla. Stat

    163.3225 Public hearings.—
    (1) Before entering into, amending, or revoking a development agreement, a local government shall conduct at least two public hearings. At the option of the governing body, one of the public hearings may be held by the local planning agency.
    (2)(a) Notice of intent to consider a development agreement shall be advertised approximately 7 days before each public hearing in a newspaper of general circulation and readership in the county where the local government is located. Notice of intent to consider a development agreement shall also be mailed to all affected property owners before the first public hearing. The day, time, and place at which the second public hearing will be held shall be announced at the first public hearing.
    (b) The notice shall specify the location of the land subject to the development agreement, the development uses proposed on the property, the proposed population densities, and the proposed building intensities and height and shall specify a place where a copy of the proposed agreement can be obtained.

    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes...g=&URL=0100-0199/0163/Sections/0163.3225.html

    As is clearly stated in the code, "Notice of intent to consider a development agreement shall also be mailed to all affected property owners before the first public hearing."

    This failure, in and of itself, nullifies Disney's complaint.
     
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    You could have at least posted your source
    https://thecapitolist.com/florida-f...eeks-failure-to-comply-with-sunshine-law/amp/

    That is only one of the 4 claims in Disneys complaint and they have said they have complied with all applicable laws.

    But your pro-free speech cheering the state threatening new taxes, new tolls, a prison and inspections designed to hurt a company because they voiced their opinions only go to cement what has happened to the Republican Party.
     
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    • Insulting or personally attacking other posters (Rule 2/3)
    That wasn't my source, but nice try. I've already posted my source, <Rule 2/3>

    The entirety of the lawsuit by Disney fails if the final actions of Reedy Creek are invalid. Not only is it improperly in federal court, because Disney thinks they have a shot of getting a biased judge, but they have no standing to bring the action in federal court if that initial action is invalid. But keep on thinking Disney is going to win this one.
     
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    Let’s watch shall we — if you are still here I will be happy to go over the facts of the outcome with you :)
     
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    Don't go holding your breath on that one.... I'm calling a churn-and-run poster here...

    On your post in #218, Disney has 5 Cause of Actions in their suit, not 4

    https://www.documentcloud.org/docum...-lawsuit-against-desantis-and-oversight-board

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    Rebecca Tushnet, Frank Stanton Professor of First Amendment Law at Harvard Law School, also thinks that "it's obvious to everyone" that Florida's legal moves to restrict Disney's freedom and independence in the state are a sign that "Florida is punishing Disney for Disney's speech," she told Newsweek.
    ENDSNIP

    Rebecca Tushnet sounds like Peggy Peterson, the fake name Stormy used in her paperwork with Mango...
     
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    LOL, you are so confident you are right while being so hilariously wrong. It's tragically funny.
     
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    How are you assessing what the outcome of a court decision is to classify anyone’s thoughts about them to be wrong?

    I am simply looking at several dozens of different legal opinions from around the nation vs the defending law firm and a YouTube lawyer.

    How fascinating. And your final statement — if you can say two words strung together is a statement that is — is hilariously ironic.
     
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    What I find fascinating is how DeSantis is not bright enough to AVOID admitting that his goal in taking on Disney was to quiet their political speech.

    Frankly, other than age and having some political experience, there's not much difference between him and Mango. Neither knows when to shut up during a legal case...

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    “Since our skirmish last year, Disney has not been involved in any of those issues,” he added. “They have not made a peep. That ultimately is the most important – that Disney is not allowed to pervert the system to the detriment of Floridians. So that’s a win for the people of Florida.”
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ron-desantis-says-disney-not-040335602.html

    I assume his words can be used against him in a Civil trial as they would in a Criminal trial?
     
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    Insult 50% of their audience?
    The only people being "insulted" are old white guys, like yourself, who are scared of the idea that whites won't be the majority one day. So maybe 10%?
     
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