Do weak Presidents start more wars?

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Do weak Presidents start more wars?

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  2. No

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  1. Eddie Haskell Jr

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    Not one single US solider lost while we helped Ukraine decimate a good chunk of Russia's military. Plus, we got extraordinary intelligence on how modern their military is, how they respond, how they're equipped, etc. I say money well spent.
     
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    Russia has been in war time military production since 2022. They can out manufacture us atm.

    If what I said is true. Which it is. Who is getting decimated?

    The United States needs to take this **** more seriously. I think Europe has started to figure this out but we have a capitalist approach to arms manufacturing and Russia does not. Now this does lead to less quality in arms manufacturing but it does also lead to numbers. Our arms manufacturing has a substantial cost difference to theirs.

    What I've learned now from this war is that it's more about how cheap and efficient can you fight a war? Shooting down a 30000 drone with a 800000 missile for example is untenable.

    And this isn't just one side. Ukraine knocking out a battleship with a bunch of drones? That's incredibly scary.
     
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    I don't know who you are talking about. Biden is weak from Afghanistan to the skies over America. He's just paying back Ukraine for the bribes.
     
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    Trump's "agreement" with the Taliban ceased to exist before he left office. The whole deal was "quid pro quo" (YOU do THIS and We will do THAT). The very first step required the Taliban to establish a ceasefire with the Afghanistan government. It never happened. The Trump deal was over. That happened before Trump left office. Biden had SEVEN MONTHS AND TWENTY DAYS (more time than it took to plan and execute the massive invasion of Guadalcanal in WWII) to come up with something new. He did NOTHING but run away like the cowardly dog he is. In the chaos he abandoned billions in weaponry to the terrorist Taliban. The chaotic abandonment of Afghanistan is all on Biden.

    Do you have a link about Trump allowing our airspace to be violated?
     
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    Trump capitulated and signed peace deal with Taliban. That was his whole schtick (get us out/prevent wars). Remember? Still is today. And yeah, China flew more balloons over US under Trump than Biden. .

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/na...ny-chinese-spy-ballons-flew-over-us-rcna71021
     
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    That article is based on speculation, not proven numbers. "China might have flown balloons when Trump was in office" not China flew balloons over the US when Trump was President.
     
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    Sorry. That's not true. Trump's whole deal was a "quid pro quo" agreement (Taliban does THIS... America does THAT). It all died early when the Taliban refused to establish a ceasefire with the Afghani government. That happened before Trump left office. The deal COMPLETELY DIEDS before Trump left office. Biden had SEVEN MONTHS AND TWENTY DAYS to com e up with something new... and all he did was run away, arming the Taliban in in his chaotic skedaddle.

    "China flew more balloons over US under Trump than Biden" PROVE IT... simply... PROVE IT
     
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    "There are currently five known Chinese balloon flights into U.S. territory, including two during the Biden administration and three during Donald Trump’s presidency, according to the Biden administration’s public statement. The military and intelligence agencies detected the three balloon flights during the Trump presidency after Trump had left office, by reviewing the data for previous sightings of unidentified aerial objects, according to Biden officials. The four known flights prior to the February shootdown spent far less time in U.S. airspace."
     
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    BS. Trump capitulated to Taliban but since he could shoot someone and do no wrong, you're fine with him surrendering.
    And I proved it by citing the same report about the balloons under Biden. I guess you only cherry pick the part you want, eh Qboy?
     
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    How could they POSSIBLY have spent less time in US airspace. The intelligence gathering balloon Biden let in traversed the entire country. Did these other balloons stop for vacation in Palm Springs? Sounds a little fishy. Do you have a link?
     
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    Trump's plan ceased to exist when the Taliban refused to take the first "quid pro quo" step of establishing a cease fire with the Afghan government. It ended there.
    Biden had SEVEN MONTHS AND TWENTY DAYS (longer than it took to plan, prepare, and execute the massive invasion of Guadalcanal in WWII). Biden STILL couldn't prevent the chaos and totally confused skedaddle from Afghanistan that gifted billions of dollars of warfighting equipment to the Taliban.

    "Qboy"? No spreeky dee Engrish?

    I still await the link to that balloon "report" you posted.
     
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    i answered. you cherry picked the report and only believe the part of balloons that occurred during Biden and ignored the other part of report of occurrences under trump.
     
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    So you STILL have no link as requested? Got it... you can't PROVE what you say. We understand.
     
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    I provided a link. You only chose to believe the part that put Biden in a bad light and ignored the part that put Trump under a bad light.
     
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    Did Biden let the Chinese balloon traverse the entire Unites States, only shooting it down when it sailed over the Atlantic? Yes or No?????

    Dis Biden take any action at all in response? Yes or No???
     
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    Yes, Biden took advice from advisors to shoot down over Atlantic. Was it to avoid ground casualties? Collect more info on it before shooting down? We don't know. So yes, he did take response. And yes, there were other balloons that crossed US under both Trump and Biden. Were they aware? We also don't know.
     
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    It was shot down after it had traversed the entire USA. After it had completed its mission. That is no response at all. Its just taking out the garbage.
    Biden's cowardice concerning shooting down the balloon, when matched with his amazing cowardice in the "Afghan skedaddle", and the lack of response to the Russian shoot down of an American multimillion dollar Predator over international waters in the Black Sea... is demonstrating a trend of endless cowardice unparalleled in American history.

    Do you have a link about ballons while Trump was in charge? I bet he didn't let them cross the whole country before dispatching them. Let's see your link.
     
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    Look above. I provided link. You agreed with the part that put Biden in bad light and ignored the part about Trump.
     
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    I didn't see any link. Can you resend please?
     
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    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/na...ny-chinese-spy-ballons-flew-over-us-rcna71021

    "There are currently five known Chinese balloon flights into U.S. territory, including two during the Biden administration and three during Donald Trump’s presidency, according to the Biden administration’s public statement. The military and intelligence agencies detected the three balloon flights during the Trump presidency after Trump had left office, by reviewing the data for previous sightings of unidentified aerial objects, according to Biden officials. The four known flights prior to the February shootdown spent far less time in U.S. airspace."
     
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    So the balloons during Trump's administration were not known about until after he left office. AHHHH... ok. And that compares to Biden, who knew about the ballon early on, willfully letting the balloon totally traverse the USA and doing nothing about it... how?
     
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    If you want to go down that road, at least Biden had people in place to find them. Trump so busy insulting fellow Americans he doesn't bother to have appropriate personnel to protect us. Want us to continue hypotheticals?
     
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    There are a lot of people who voted for Biden who are on this forum and grasping at straws.
     
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    LOL. No. It was a withdrawal agreement with the Taliban. Plain and simple. Pulling out of Afghanistan was one of the very few campaign promises which he actually followed through.
     
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    Yeah, insults depleted the Department of Defense of personnel... what an odd assertion.

    By the way... I couldn't care less about anyone's INSULTS. I care about the safety and prosperity of my FAMILY. Trump gave us cheaper gas, lower inflation, more secure borders, no new wars, a strong military and more. Those things have a direct impact on my family's safety and prosperity.


    Who the hell cares about insults? By the way, wasn't it a female democrat that called half of America "deplorables"?
     

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