Do you consider building codes to be a violation of property rights?

Do you consider building codes to be a violation of property rights?

 

building codes are very important..many areas have codes that need to be updated..like the hurrican areas that allow block walls to not be fully filled with concrete..the concrete is what gives the wall the strength not the block itself....

 

Yes, but a necessary violation.

 

No, I most definitely do not. Look, I'm sorry, but the freedom to have my house fall in and kill me or my precious right to watch my children die from typhoid infected milk is right up there with my own desire to (*)(*)(*)(*) myself to death after catching cholera from an open sewer. AND DON'T MISQUOTE BEN FRANKLIN. He said those who are willing to give up ESSENTIAL freedoms for safety don't deserve them, ESSENTIAL ones, OK? not just ANY freedoms.

 

I have to agree.

 

building permits fees are way out of control in california..in this county that i live in it cost around 50,000 to get permits to build a house right now..for what? just so an inspector to come out and make sure you are doing things right?

 

I don't know if I would consider building codes to be a violation of property rights or not. Technically they are. They are a restriction on what you can do with what is supposed to be your property. But I wonder how many people would actually build a house on their property that was not up to code. I think almost everyone would adhere to code just so they would know they were living in a safe building.
Zoning laws, on the other hand.......

 

Yes, it's a violation. But I don't care. Rights to ones property sometimes has to come after some measures for the common good.

 

Most people do not build nor know how to build their own homes so its beneficial to have construction codes and inspectors. As much as I dislike government regulating private lives there are times it's necessary.

 

There is no right to behave in a reckless and dangerous manner, nor to present a threat to public health, nor to sell a dangerous product.

So, absolutely no violation of property rights. Building codes are at least as old as the Bible.

 

$50K for building permits? I'm not buying that.

 

Unfortunately yes, building codes are telling people what to do with their property and takes away their freedom.

 

I've been in the building industry most of my life I can assure if it weren't for building codes the vast majority of homes wouldn't be built up to code...building to code is expensive, contractors, developers and most homeowners would have no hesitation looking for the cheapest method possible...

 

50K is hard to believe...

no one likes paying permit fees but inspectors don't work for free, if my neighbour wants to renovate his home why should I subsidize his building with my taxes, he's asking for extra service he can pay for it....

what I object to is the higher taxes that come after I improve my home, my income hasn't changed why should my taxes go up?...

 

if my neighbour builds a home that is dangerous to my life then he is taking away my freedom...one man's freedom ends when it infringes on another man's freedom...

 

No it is not , if you build a flimsy house in an earthquake prone area chances are that your balcony will land on someone's head or the people who rent will get killed, unfortunately people are very irresponsible when it comes to safety and the state has to enforce it .

 

It goes beyond that too. Fire safety is a big concern- if a home is not built to be fire safe, it endangers not only the residents but the neighbors and most of all, firemen's lives. This is becoming a bigger concern in the West, with homes built in wildlands, and fire crews endangering their lives to protect them.

And yes sewage. Should people have the right to dump their sewage in their backyard? What about dumping it so it goes into the common aquifer where the neighbors wells draw water from? Electrical- not only a safety issue, but could knock out power for your entire neighborhood.

We live in a democratic society- most building codes are local- if you disagree with them, well vote to change them- elect officials that promise to change them.

 

Yeah, as a home owner, I find this frustrating. I actually have less money because I spend it on materials for my house, and others spend it on materials/labor. The last thing we need after a home improvement is more bills.

 

After firing my building contractor and suing him into bankruptcy, for fraud, misappropriation, and breach of contract, I set out to complete the construction myself. Building in a rural area, I was not bound by city code, but I used a independent building inspectors to insure that at each phase, I was up to city code.

 

Hammurabi's code said that if a building fell down and killed someone the builder should be executed. The Romans had the tradition that the foreman stood under the arch while the scaffolding was removed.

 

Can you name a building code that would apply to someone living outside of the building? It seems to only affect the building owner unless it is aesthetical.

 

water well,septic system,treehouse,barn driveways..thats just a few of them

 

50k in US Dollars? or in rubles, or peso's? or some other currency which could translate to pennies on the dollar compared to our currency? Just curious.

 

thats for building a new house on raw land..from the well,septic and all the buiding permits in this county in calif..and yes it is true

 

No reason to doubt you but damn!!!!
I ran the numbers in my town and a $300,000 construction permit comes to $3600. That includes everything on the site, Ceptic, dwelling ,well etc.
No offense but I cannot envision what your saying is true, I also do not know any better. RUN outta that state!!!
Had a friend years ago that moved to Ca. Told me a lot which was actually a cliff face was a cool mil.