How the heck am I taking this personally?You are the one that used the term special rights. And I am simply asking what you mean by special rights. Just admit you can't answer it or that you made a mistake .obviously you're taking this personally ....if a church refuses to marry them or a baker refuses to bake a cake how is that a "special right"I especially love your last line where you believe in negative rights. So gay people have the right to be rejected. In your world that's a right? Whites had the right to own slaves Blacks had the right to be slaves.lucky them
The point I made stated "as long as they don't get special rights." Now you tell me, how does that say that gays do have special rights? Can't you read or what? And exactly that is the point; if the church/bakery was forced to do things against their will by law, it would become a special right and that is something I am against. Capice? You clearly have no clue what you are talking about here and clearly do not know what a negative right is.
No, Christians are not supposed to change their beliefs only to satisfy homosexuals just like homosexuals are not supposed to "become straight" just to satisfy some religious loonies.
And a married gay couple can raise children in a more stable home than a single gay person (yes, lots of gay people have naturally born children - through previous interaction with the other sex, previous marriage, or surrogates) so it is in the interest of the child to have the gay parents married.
Well gays are trying to have babies ,a lot, god can make them fertile using his god magic anytime he wants and don't use birth control so the Roman Catholic Church should be happy on that score. What is the big deal with all the bad things going on and bad people and bad governments and bad groups having people fall in love, choosing to marry and be a household and maybe adopt some children should be seen as a good thing and encouraged.
I love it when the godless call me "Bible" thumper then pick and choose scripture that they arrogantly quote. You have demonstrated eloquently that you do what you accuse me of. Read some more: Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives just as Christ loved the Church and gave himself up for her to make her Holy cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church without stain wrinkle or any blemish, but holy and blameless. In this same way husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. So there you have it. I am to love my wife even as Christ loved the church. What does that mean?? I should lay my life down for her?? That's not fair! See, I can claim to be a victim also! It never says "wives lay down your life for your husband." that is my charge. And.... I am to love my wife as my own body. So you tell me....does the Bible justify me to be a tyrant over my wife? Does the Bible tell me to treat her as an inferior when I am commanded to be prepared to die for her? See, you don't read scripture in totality. This is why so many of the godless in the feminist movement have it out for the Church. Their hearts are hardened and they don't care what God would teach us through His Word. Yet they quote the scripture perhaps more often than I do. It's a wonder hardened men don't come out against the CHurch and claim to be victims. What....am I to give my life for my wife? That's not fair! But the greater message is this...."While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us all." As I said earlier, "Christians are to submit one to another".
I do not believe that did anything to dishonor marriage. As long as it was one man and one women. I am in total agreement with you there.
And if two women commit to a marriage I don't see how that dishonors your marriage or mine in any way.it just adds another option....ya know like interracial couples allowed to marry. People thought that dishonored marriage and not that long ago in our history
As I pointed out… Pick and choose pick and choose..this is from the Bible Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything." . I don't need an out of date book for me to live my life honorably. That is your need ,so be it
I support Gay's right to get married. I do not support religious organizations who do not, being forced by the State, to perform the ceremony.
Its in the best interests of the child to have a mother and father. Two gays, two lesbians, single mother, single father---none of that compares to the quality standard....a mother and a father who are committed to their family unit.
I wouldn't really say that I "support" it. I don't really care if they get married. I don't see how it harms anyone else, and since gay people in America are usually tax paying citizens, then yes they should be able to be married if they want.
Millions of kids have been abused by fathers and mothers in the family unit. There is simply no data to suggest that a committed gay couple isn't better than 50% of the parental units out there. If you can prove that ANY and ALL heterosexual couples are better than every gay couple, I'll concede your point. Given that a number of mass murders have come from heterosexual two parent households - good luck on that one. Besides that - millions of heterosexual couples get married with NO intention of having kids. People marry in the 80s and 90s. So it's asinine to state that gay couples shouldn't be able to marry because of kids.
Its asinine to assume gender doesn't matter when raising children. Men and Women...are in fact different in brain and body. We know what the standard is...we have history on the importance of a family with a Mother and Father. If we care about our nation remaining intact, our society ought to do what's right and encourage the standard.
Of course I understand it.....and I reject it. Because you don't like the quotes doesn't mean they don't exist. Shall we then point out where slavery is condoned?
I think that having good parents is much more important than whether the parents are male, female, a combination of both, or single parents. How you treat and raise the child are what matters most, IMO.
There are no studies at this point that show that children brought up in a middle income gay household are at any disadvantage to those brought up by poor, alcoholic straight couples. You prove that, I'll concede your point. But you can't.
Sure it matters how children are raised. A good Single parent is better then an alcoholic Mother and Father who abuse their kids. But a family with Children who have a Mother and Father in the home is in the best situation based on what we know from thousands of years of humanity. To say gender doesn't matter is silly in my opinion. And a bit arrogant to think we can just swish away nature.
I really don't know why people think its just fine to take drastic risks with our offspring and our family unit. Self destructive. History is the best study of all.
You know Renee....the shortest verse in the Bible is "Jesus Wept". Guess you could claim the "Lion of Judah" was a cry baby. That is until you read how he drove the money changers out of the temple. Guess in your mind,, you'll make God's Word say anything you want it to. If you want to discuss slavery, guess you should study Philemon....but then again you can distort that too I guess.
What do we do then....take our words like Mom, Dad, Aunt, Uncle, Grandma, Grandpa, and trow them out the window because they no longer have real meaning?
