EU parliament votes for visa-free travel for Ukraine

Ukrainians are nothing but potenzial criminals for me. My case is at 20% in polls. It already changed alot. We dont want you here.

 

i dont care what you want, i am a Swedish citizen, and i have it way batter then you , with your far- rightish views you must be very much rejected, more like outsider, right? by the way i know that you represent very , very small minority , most of the Germans are very much open - minded Europeans,

 

Im eastern german. My opinion is majority over here. Compared to most people here im moderate.

 

Not welcoming tourists huh?

 

+1, very very strange, fishy ideas ...

 

Ought to facilitate Ukranian migration, a nice gesture, concomitant with further western integration and a step in the right direction.

 

Ukraine is a dirt poor shithole. What kind of "tourists" will come from there? I cant stand this pathetic approach from the liberal left. Guess what? We also blocked "tourists from turkey, iran, botswana and somalia.

The average income in Ukraine is below 500 € a month. Totally uniteresting for tourism. Germany has a big problem with eastern european crime already. Mostly eastern european car stealing and so on.

 

It is not poor, it has different price and tax politics. Do not forget, money are a virtual equivalent of wealth, that is usually measured in material goods. They have homes, cars, don't starve, can afford vacation or two a year, non-governmental medical care, and pretty much live in decent conditions.

The difference between wages and prices in Ukraine and in Germany makes them look 'poor', but generally majority of population is fine. Sure, things can be improved, and improved a lot. But do not exxagerate the situation.

As for criminals - it is normal, that among them immigrants. They start their life in country in a vulnerable position, and if they fail to settle well - usually they have nobody to rely on for help. While locals have families and friends, a newly-migrated person or family may find themselves in a dire situation, where they have to choose between crime or starvation. Not necessarily. Teens may resort to crime in the situation resembling such circubstances out of 'youth maximalism', as we call it. Basically - mixture of foolishness and romantism, making the idea of crime attractive - su-u-uch a drammatic event in their 'boring' lives..!

And I guess Germany has more migrants from Estonia, or Chech, or Poland, than from Spain or France. These countries - just as mine - went through tough times after dissolution of USSR and collapse of soviet politics, so likely people been using opportunity to move in a more stable countries.

I doubt that regular ukrainians will present much of a problem, I more worry about the radicals that now have open road to european countries - that already has tensions between middle east migrants and own people. They may badly affect these tensions and make them escalate, I think.

 

Yes he liked Ukraine for chernozem soil, easy access for black sea(Schwarze meer), slave labor (Ost arbiter), lebensraum, Ost jungen project(removal of young blonde, blue eyed, males/ females for germanization).

 

actually Germans have had not 1, but many other plans. still Ukraine will provide food security for Germany for years ...got huge investment already , China, EU, USA, Canada ...

 

Isn't that what the west Germans used to say before reunification?

 

Yes true, that was just ww2, Germany has huge investment in Ukraine today in terms of euros.

 

no chance for you to get a police job in Stockholm, or Berlin with such mentality , dont leave your village

 

x1, before an open economy (west Germany) took over

 

Any of your grandparents in ww2 soon? Eastern front? I had distant family member serve in 14th waffen grenadier division der SS, 43-45?

 

No, since they stole hundreds of billions from eastern germany. Beside that, we are one people. Ukrainians arent Germans.

 

You sound as if Ukraine's only benefit is argiculture.

It's a country, not a farm.

 

I´m a Bundespolizist. I actually stand above any local police officer in Berlin who would only be considered "Landespolizist".

 

I didn't think eastern Germany had hundreds of billions. I thought they were poor by comparison with western Germany.

 

Both my grandparents were born after the war. I´m just 24. My great grandfather was in the SS but he said he was in Denmark, Greece and France. My other great grandfather (hope thats right word? father of my grandfather) was a Pilot.

 

After reunion the west took the property for zero and then sold it for billions. National property was given for free to some capitalists who then sold it for billions.

For example a lake, was naturalized with public tax money. Then sold to the owners of Bosch for the symbolic € who privatized it and sold it for 150 million €.

 

You don't seem to know much about our dynamics or what sort of a force is running things in here, nor does anybody else who's into only hearsay of the MSM.

For example, same AKP leadership was chanting a year ago that they would be praying at the Umayyad Mosque (Emevi Camii) of Damascus in less than a week after they topple down Assad. What happened to that dream? Despite the majority in Turkish parliament (TBMM), and some 65% public approval, they first had to step back, then had to replace the Prime Minister, and then had to "COMPLY" with the "realities" of our NATION which since 1923 has been imposing an "ANTI-IMPERIALIST" stance regardless of our NATO membership. This actually was a "silent revolution". NATO is still protecting FETO generals and refusing to extradite them. I can give you names and put some photos here if you like.

So, those realities will still be pushing for their own agendas no matter who's in charge, because litwo, you don't understand what makes Turkiye "so different" than others:
This nation was founded by the very ARMY who defeated the "British, Italians, French and Greeks" all together at the same time. It's coded in our DNA that we are ANTI-IMPERIALIST and at our best we can only have a "BALANCE", if not already sided with Eurasia !

Another example; in 1974 as a NATO army, we did go against America and the EU and intervened militarily to Cyprus for ending the Greek Enosis terror. Tons of boycotts, sanctions, embargoes were coming from all directions, but we managed to stand against all. They had to come up with a coup plan to shift the country back to the western stance in 1980. Assassinations, terror plots, murders, executions, all started as though someone pushed a button.

Today, Turkish patriots are rising once again. We have only one leader and his name is "Gazi Mustafa Kemal ATATURK" !

F-35s, carriers, destroyers, missiles, bombs, nukes, terrorists, sanctions... You name it...

There's no power in this world that can beat "millions" gathering like this every single year for appreciating the mightiest leader of all time! You carve that in somewhere real good : )

 

lol.

 

Some Russians would say otherwise...a big farm, but a country not.

 

Peer Steinbrück is quoted as saying in a 2011 interview, "Over a period of 20 years, German reunification has cost 2 trillion euros, or an average of 100 billion euros a year.