Everyone driving electric cars----------what a joke.

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  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Just a quick note. The Texas power grid is independent, and isn't connected to out of state grids, which is actually part of the problem down here. https://www.king5.com/article/news/...grid/507-6192cf48-4bf4-4a82-8586-0e5c0a549707
     
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    Within a 5 mile radius of our home, there is one house with solar cells on the roof. That house has singled itself out.
     
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    No answer ?
     
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    I agreed with you, so now what, twenty post of me telling you I agree with your post?
     
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    Texas unifying every thing within the state, avoid federal regulations. You know, those regs that keep windmills functioning in cold weather. This is what happens when you go with the cheapest contractor.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/weather/why-texas-energy-grid-unable-handle-winter-storms-n1258049
     
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    Geesus no.
     
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    Great then move along, plenty of other posts to enjoy and reply to, have a nice day bro..
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Plain fact is if it were not for the coal fired power plants in Texas there would be total disaster.
     
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    As a smart consumer. Makes sense.
     
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    The thing is, I can always generate electricity. Even if there was a nuclear war, and the nation’s infrastructure was wiped out, I could still generate electricity. Any motion that can be made, can be made to drive a generator. One does not need to purchase gasoline, one does not need a steady supply, one does not need to be dependent on a commodity, and the speculators and profiteers who drive up the prices.

    An electric car can drive the length of I-5, there being plenty of charging stations. In the towns and cities along the way, there are even stores and restaurants who lure customers in with charging stations, sometimes for free.

    Because of the way large generators work, a lot of energy is wasted, generated electricity that goes nowhere. It takes the same amount of energy to turn a generator, regardless of the electrical load. This is especially so during the night. When most people are sleeping and demand is low. The nighttime, when people are sleeping, is the perfect time to charge one’s car, and it only takes a little over an hour or two. A full charge will get you about 350 miles, so driving 50 miles a day will get you about a week on a charge. About the distance from Raton New Mexico to Cheyenne Wyoming along I-25, which includes all of Colorado from south to north.
     
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    Good post.
    The fear of EVs long term is completely unfounded. If you were told there is a gas station every 100 yards, you would think it’s crazy. Yet, there is a potential charging station off every utility pole and the stations themselves can be much more quickly set up then a gas station. They’re all automated with none of the gas safety requirements. There are tens of thousands times more electricity in the form solar energy that strikes the earth each day then is needed to meet our energy needs for a year.

    conservatives have been fighting every new technology ans safety requirement that has ever been developed. They’re just doing what they always do, live in fear.
     
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    What is a joke is that Texas was ill prepared for a COLD WINTER !!!!
     
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    The amount of energy needed to keep a horse for the feeble distance it will take you in a day, is astronomically more inefficient then just about any mechanical mode of transportation we have ever used. Now, going off-road back when we had few of them, sure, get a horse.
     
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    The great thing about Americans is that tend to be problem solvers - so now that we have been presented with new data (ie freezing
    tmps farther south than normal) we can start working on ways to combat the problem. Fossil fuel technology wasn't perfected in
    a day - and yet we didn't just give up on it because of one bad week - we are slowly replacing it because it is a finite resource.
     
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    I have no idea. I don't know what his roof cost. But he is in a tiny minority. People usually flock toward something that improves their personal finances.
     
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    Usually, we solve problems before they actually become a problem. Forcing green energy circumvents that logic.
     
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    Rarely do we solve problems before they become problems - we are a reactive society on the whole, not a proactive one.
     
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    Another thread with no actual basis in reality.


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    The grid began preparing for the storm a week ahead of time, but it reached a breaking point early Monday as conditions worsened and knocked power plants offline, ERCOT president Bill Magness said. Some wind turbine generators were iced, but nearly twice as much power was wiped out at natural gas and coal plants
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    https://apnews.com/article/texas-power-outage-winter-energy-pride-c260c340f619688dd511cc6645b40a04
     
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    More to it then that. It’s totally dependent on what he has to work with. A well insulated house with a good southern exposer eliminates most people that don’t have it.That’s where a community setup makes sense. But yes, it’s a significant savings for many with passive solar even decades ago. It doesn’t pay now at all even with newer tech because of poor location ang inefficient house.
     
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    If only you would have got rid of your incandescent light bulbs. LOL. /sarcasm
     
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    My underlying philosophy of the social structure of our country follows along these lines.

    Liberals come up with new ideas and products which are at first scoffed at by most of the rest of society. Once the product or idea begins to be proven, the progressives jump on board. Once the progressives jump on board, the idea or product starts to be seen as cool, and the moderates, the wish washy ones in the middle, join the party. At that point critical mass is reached and conservatives are grudgingly brought into the mix, the Evangelicals, even more grudgingly.

    Forty years ago conservative Christians were calling the computer the work of the Devil. The marker of 666 and all that. Not that long ago, many conservatives were resisting the switch from incandescent to LED lighting.
     
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    Not only that, but the rest of the country could be paying for Texas weather. The price of gasoline could go up 10 to 20 cents per gallon.
     
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    There was an experimental housing project, I think just outside of Chicago. I saw it in a documentary on PBS. The houses were super insulated with a good southern exposure designed to maximize heat absorption. The water was heated by an active (ie has pumps and electronics) solar system. Turned out the houses worked so well that residents often opened their windows, even in the dead of winter, to keep from getting too hot.
     

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