Facts vs Myths about Homosexuality

So now you say that you have no gays or lesbians. Yet on every thread you take a personal shot at gays and lesbiens in your post. You either know someone who died of Aids or someone you work with and you try to pass off debunked facts as true. Yet you have no problem with gays or lesbiens. I think pretty much everyone hear knows that you have a major problem with gays and lesbiens. So if you do not have a problem with these Americans why all the cheap shot and mis representing facts? You have a huge history of flaming the problem and with personal attacks. I think everyone would like an explaination about your past comments and no all of the sudden you have no problem with these people. I can post qoutes from your past if you would like?

 

My bit of opinion.
Posters who sign onto a forum here, or elsewhere, debate, discuss..even argue...about whatever is important to them.
User names, avatars...give clues. Some are right in your face "make no mistake about it", others are more subtle. We chose them, and most put some thought into why it would make an impact, and they are a reflection of who we are. ( exceptions noted, of course).
As for priority, that is something we all must decide for ourselves.

 

Finally something we can work with.
Engaging in homosexual acts is a choice. Why that choice appeals to anyone is something straight people will never understand.
A man who has sex with boys is a pedophile. If a sane man wants to have sex with boys he is also gay or bisexual, therefore all sane male pedophiles are gay or bisexual.
I don't think anyone believes number three, but I know how often I think about sex and it's a lot.
Christianity, Judaism and Islam all condemn homosexual acts and urge repentance from all sins. To deny that homosexual acts are sins is to renounce those religions.
Perversion is in the eye of the beholder. My wife calls me a pervert when I stare at her body. I think it proves I'm not.
Obviously homosexuals are not solely responsible for spreading diseases, but the percentages exceed their representation in the overall population.
How do homosexuals reproduce? Don't they do it by taking a day off from homosexual practices? Obviously there are non-sexual ways to reproduce but that's a recent development.
Homosexuals are permitted to marry people of the opposite sex. They just might not enjoy it as much as their straight counterparts.
Those of us who object to homosexual practices are aware that a hole is a hole and certain things feel good regardless of the emotion, body part or object involved in the stimulation. There are good reasons that young children should not experience certain things.
I think most people who object to homosexual acts deny evolution.
I've done my best to meet your "myths" with facts.
Now let truth grapple with error.

 

What you call facts, are 1) opinion 2) anecdotes 3)thoughts on the subject.

If you would like to supply facts based on peer reviewed study, I'm here to listen.

 

Well I guess you could say you believe myth three you discuss pedophileia as if it were connected with gays. Also homosexuality is not a choice (thats the dumbest staement one could make) then again you are not dealing in facts just your beliefs which are two different things. Also bearing false witness is a sin to deny that is to renounce those religions as well. A sin is a sin no one bigger than the other that is a biblical fact. Some people do not deal in facts just thier beliefs and opinions which is what is happening here.

 

I never said I don't know any gays or lesbians and other than complaining about all the drama that encircles homosexuals, I've never expressed hatred for gays.

If you'd like to supply some PROOF with your accusations, I'll be glad to respond. Otherwise, AIDS is my #1 concern because it's everybody else's 100th concern.

That's not likely to change...

 

I think the main thing that keeps the pedophileia rumor alive is the FACT that most gay men find YOUNG gay men very desirable... and not in a 'come, let me mentor you' kinda way.

My gay brother was always attracted to young hispanic men.... and by young, I mean teenagers.

Which is officially, pedophileia -- like it or not.

 

HIV/AIDS is a very real concern for the gay community as well. We are losing many young people, as much as we push education and offer help. It is heartwrenching when kids feel that life is so &^%$ that unsafe sex and drug use makes no difference.
If you look at any gay community center in any city, you will see that the major outreach is AIDS education. But if kids come to us, they might be exposed as gay. Can't do that!!! So they stay underground. Married men as well. Anyone who doesn't dare come out stays away. Young black and latino men are especially vulnerable because of the religious stigma.
It's a sad, sad thing. I don't know the answer.

 

Actually, it's not. Pedophilia has to do with pre-pubescent children. Usually under twelve.

 

You really have no idea about homosexuality, do you? You think it's exclusively about who you have sex with?

It has nothing to do with sex, at least not directly, and EVERYTHING to do with who you feel an innate sexual, emotional, and romantic attraction to. Those same feelings you, as a straight person, have for the opposite sex are feelings that homosexuals have for people of their own gender. Trying to limit the scope of the issue to sex-only is to completely ignore the entire spectrum of human emotion.

 

And I'm sure there is no parallel in the heterosexual world because we all know that hetero adults NEVER find teenagers to be sexually enticing. Never ever ever ever.

In all seriousness, this is a cop-out, an attempt to pin something on homosexuals that heterosexuals do all the time.

 

Not the same at all. Underage gay men are usually sexually active... otherwise, how why would they think they're gay?

 

I'm not sure the law looks at it that way. Anyone under 17 is considered a child in the eyes of the law. (at least in my state)

 

I don't know the answer either. The 'cocktail' of meds worked very well for my bro... as long as he took them. He didn't suffer the same lingering death many of his friends suffered because he had those drugs. Unfortunately, all his organs suddenly shut down and he died.

Pray for a cure is all we can do. I'm afraid the recently breakthroughs in treating the disease only serve to lull gay men into a false sense of security. AIDS is still a very real threat. And it only takes ONE TIME of careless behavior to be saddled with a death sentence.

Very scary.

 

Still waiting for that proof.

 

And the fact that some continue to link AIDS with being only a gay disease lulls heterosexuals into a false sense of security. Funny that on a world wide scale more heterosexuals have HIV/AIDS then homosexuals.

 

Not true. It's people who spread myths like that cause the gay community to disregard the threat of AIDS. The great majority of heterosexuals who contract AIDS get it from men who've had sex with an infected man. Do your homework.

 

Behavior is a choice, the orientation driving that behavior is not. Will you admit that people feel attraction before they begin engaging in behavior? Do you identify as heterosexual? Will you admit that the orientation of one's feelings of attraction play a role in shaping identity?

This is not true. 'Gay' and 'bisexual' refer to a gender-based orientation. Pedophilia is an age-based orientation. Pedophiles pick their victims based on factors like ease of access, malleable personality, whether the victim is likely to report them, etc. Thus, the orientation of a pedophile who targets children of the same-sex doesn't have the same basis as that of a gay adult attracted to other adults of the same sex. To characterize a pedophile as 'gay' is very insulting. I will go so far as to assert it's the very reason for your linking the two. Your purpose was not to illuminate the issue, but to flamebait.

Whether or not the people saying that actually believe it, it's a common accusation made against homosexuals - that they are obsessed with sex.

False statement. People within those faiths have differing opinions as to biblical interpretation and whether or not homosexuality is a sin. Can you admit that people who share a faith in common don't always agree on doctrine? It's part of why there are so many Protestant denominations in Christianity. Different sects in Judaism and Islam as well.

Perversion is indeed subjective, and so item #5 is moot.

The Myth as stated was that all homosexuals spread disease, not that they are solely responsible. Both are myths. There are people who seem to believe that homosexuality is the cause of HIV/AIDS, not merely a vehicle for spreading it via unsafe sex, and who seem to believe that all homosexuals will die of AIDS. As for disproportionate, if we're going to enter that debate, then you have to be willing to look at the many factors that put homosexuals at greater risk for this and many other problems, the chief factor being their longstanding marginalization and stigmatization in society. Blaming homosexuals for HIV/AIDS or using the fact of disproportional distribution among them as an excuse to insult, discriminate, etc. just serves to perpetuate those problems.

Not the point. The point is that it's dishonest to claim that persons of same-sex orientation are incapable of and/or don't contribute to procreation to maintain the species when in fact many do.

Not a question of "enjoyment". The attending issues are legal equality for similar situation, and the personal autonomy to exercise the freedom to marry a spouse of one's choosing appropriate to one's orientation. To spout that homosexuals can still marry a person of the opposite sex is to propose a double standard wherein they are treated as inferiors. Also insulting.

Translation: Those of us who have a misplaced sense of our own superiority and wish to control others...

Such as? Is it your argument that I should not be allowed around my grandnephews and grandnieces, being as I'm a man with a same-sex orientation?

Can you explain then why they invoke the argument that homosexuality is an evolutionary dead end? Gaymom didn't just pull this stuff out of thin air - these are arguments that gay people hear on a regular basis aimed at their lives.

I find your best lacking. The plain fact is that many who "object" to homosexuality will not make an effort to grapple with truth or engage in critical analysis, and are instead guided by knee-jerk reaction and prejudice.

 

What's not true?
The FACT that many people think that AIDS is a gay disease?
OR the FACT that more heterosexuals world wide have AIDS?

Aids doesn't depend on sexual orientation, it depends on unsafe sexual practices. I think that EVERYONE should be concerned with AIDS, and practice safe(er) sex. This isn't just a gay issue, but a human issue.

 

Facts:

1. it's a perverted lifestyle
2. it's gross
3. it has no redeeming qualities


Myths:

1. You were born gay
2. nothing perverted about it
3. GOD loves gays

 

No... it's a gay issue. Study up... you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

CDC Statistics on AIDS & HIV

 

So IV drug users don't get AIDS. Heterosexual women don't get AIDS. Children aren't born with AIDS. Maybe YOU should study up.

 

Never said that... and neither did the CDC. You gonna look at the statistics or would you rather make up your own?

In 2009, MSM accounted for 61% of new HIV infections in the US and 79% of infections among all newly infected men. Compared with other groups, MSM accounted for the largest numbers of new HIV infections in 2009.

 

You never said that?

In the US. I said WORLD WIDE there are more heterosexuals that have AIDS.

If it were a gay issue, as you have claimed, then Women wouldn't have AIDS, IV drug users wouldn't have AIDS, and children wouldn't have AIDS.

 

Newsflash....orientation is the basis of attraction. When you start to find someone attractive, in second grade, in sixth grade, in eigth grade, do you have sex with them??? When I started having crushes on other girls, I was eight years old. I didn't even know about sex until I was 12.

Your ideas are illogical.