Fast food workers strike: Fire 'em all.

Grants, loans, multiple jobs to put yourself through school. You know, like hard working people such as myself do? You act as if no one has ever gotten out of the ghetto or a (*)(*)(*)(*)ty life through education. Millions would argue different.

 

Haven't seen a thread yet where the overwhelming majority wasn't arguing politiotic idiotologies, instead of logic and common sense.

 

How often do you think that really happens?

 

Good 1% apologist answer. Because the 1% having about 40% of the nation's wealth and 20% of the nation's income, double that from 30 years ago, is not enough.

More is never enough.

 

Joe, facts mean less than nothing to these people.In a thread yesterday I explained why, with facts and polls to back it up, the price of a Big Mac would go up 10 cents if the minimum wage were raised to $9.56 an hour and not a single one of these people even dared to try to contradict my facts. Just as they never do when I post facts.

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Irrelevant. All I said was it COULD happen, I didn't claim it has happened a lot.

But, I will say this, people are angry right now, and rightfully so, and it WILL happen a lot if this strike happens and people start getting fired.

 

You do understand that millions of min wage jobs arent in mega corporations that enjoy giant profits, right? You do understand that small business and other non mega corps dont enjoy nearly the same profit margin , right?

 

And the world COULD collide with a meteor tomorrow destroying all life , but how likely is that to happen? Not irrelevant in any way shape or form. Usually if you are going to say something could or would happen, you would have some type of ground to stand on with the claim. The people who are stuck in dead end jobs , mostly from their own choices, could be "getting angry" . But no one really pays any attention.

 

minimum wage here is $9.95 does it hurt business? nope...wal-mart, kfc, macdonalds and every other american chain that has outlets here all pay it and it has no effect on their profits, if it was a business killer they would've all shut their doors and left long ago, if those corporations can do it in canada they can do it in their home country as well...in fact if they raised minimum to $15 it would make no difference as the costs would just be passed on to the consumer...the only real difference it would make is minimum wage workers would make a living wage they can survive on...

 

Nonsense everybody isn't eligible for government free stuff, and loans only get given with good or stable credit. As in a cosigner or a parents credit.

For every 1 person who escapes poverty 7-8 remain. In any case and I realize reality escapes you when you are generalizing your ass off, but most people neither have the choices or opportunities as the few exceptions you want to prop up as if it is all that common.

Where you are negligent in your assumptions is the assumption that these people are all in the exact same situation but just not trying or too lazy, or undeserving even if they are trying. If they really were not trying they wouldn't have a job, and they would just mooch off the tax payer until the disability kicks in for life.

 

I OWN a small business . My average wage for my 10 employees is $11.50 an hour and actually on the first everyone is getting a $1 an hour raise.

As I have said before. My wife drives a Lexus while my employee's wives drive Toyotas. She doesn't roll around in a Bentley as my employees are collecting welfare.

I also own a percentage of a restaurant and hey guess what ? We don't pay minimum wage or anything close to it there either, and amazingly enough , we aren't going bankrupt.

 

The problem is, in America power does not come from numbers. It comes from money. The only realistic way these workers can get substantially higher wages is to shut the system down. The problem there is twofold: 1) there are plenty of people who will jump in to take the jobs and 2) people making so little money cannot go without a paycheck for long. The people who own the particular units (and certainly the franchisors) can hold out for far longer. That is a very tough battle to fight.

 

Nonsense , student loans have some of the easiest qualifications that existed. My credit was garbage when I started school , no problem for me. If you dont try, you wont get results. Simple as that .

Anyway, I realize that reality escapes you and you have never applied for student loans or grants.

What prevents someone from working multiple jobs, saving for college, and attending when they can afford?

Their is no excuse, if you dont want to do what it takes to get a successful career, that is entirely on YOU .

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Sorry, but I dont reallly care about "your company" because you have no way to prove any of your claims are true. The way I see you discuss black people and races makes it really hard for me to believe a lot of your claims.

 

ANd what happens when 50M people are suddenly qualified to work higher end jobs? Oh that's right as supply goes up, prices go down, and conversely as there was less labor for the lower jobs , the cost of that labor would go up.

Your "solution" would effectively make the higher jobs earn less and the bottom jobs earn more.

LOL are you kidding me with that "logic?"

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LOL Pick a mod you trust and I will PM them the name and phone number for my business. Easily verifiable that I am in fact the owner

 

LOL, yeah more educated people is bad for our economy.... Are you kidding me with that " logic"?

 

WHo said it would be bad for the economy? I certainly didn't say that.

What I did say is absolutely correct.

Let's use engineers as an example.

Let's suppose you are wanting to hire an engineer and 5 qualified applicants apply for the job and then let's suppose I am looking to hire an engineer and 50 qualified applicants apply for the job. All else being equal, which of us will end up paying more for an engineer, and why?

Take an econ 101 class dude As Supply goes up, costs go down. ALWAYS, labor is no exception.

 

LOL, your example makes no sense....

And to think that increasing a min wage will somehow make life easier is comical at least. Take a basic econ 101, "dude" .

If I am a landlord, my customers now make "x" amount more money, why wouldnt I increase the cost of the rent to take advantage of more spending power?

Same for utilities, food, luxury items, etc.

And for your last part, You are demanding more for a supply that is increasing.... going against this " logic" you have shared with us.


As Supply goes up, costs go down. ALWAYS, labor is no exception. Your words.

So why do you expect the costs of labor to go up when the work force that supplies those jobs is growing? Do you even pause to think about what you are going to say?

 

Again you are assuming idiocy. I have never applied for student loans because it wasn't and isn't necessary, and grants, sorry but I never was eligible for such a things. So this YOU you keep evading to doesn't exist.

This isn't 1970, there are very few if any people actually working at a fast food place putting themselves through a real institute of higher learning. There has never been anybody working several jobs, and attending school full time, as so many liars claim. There simply isn't that many hours in the week. There are a lot of spoiled upper middle class kids, on the payroll of their daddy's business, doing little to nothing so they can earn a paycheck to pay for vacations on spring break, while going to school full time, but the other fantastic BS is just that.

Thought you were surviving on just above minimum wage full time, in your $750.00 a month home where you do the maintenance, for a $50 break in rent, buying your clothes from the thrift store, and living off of 'we can't actually legally call this crap food' for sustenance? Now you are going to school full time with grants and loans you got with terrible credit?

Gotta go my BS meter is stuck and I have to try and turn it off before the neighbors turn me in again for disturbing the peace.

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Again you are assuming idiocy. I have never applied for student loans because it wasn't and isn't necessary, and grants, sorry but I never was eligible for such a things. So this YOU you keep evading to doesn't exist.

This isn't 1970, there are very few if any people actually working at a fast food place putting themselves through a real institute of higher learning. There has never been anybody working several jobs, and attending school full time, as so many liars claim. There simply isn't that many hours in the week. There are a lot of spoiled upper middle class kids, on the payroll of their daddy's business, doing little to nothing so they can earn a paycheck to pay for vacations on spring break, while going to school full time, but the other fantastic BS is just that.

Thought you were surviving on just above minimum wage full time, in your $750.00 a month home where you do the maintenance, for a $50 break in rent, buying your clothes from the thrift store, and living off of 'we can't actually legally call this crap food' for sustenance? Now you are going to school full time with grants and loans you got with terrible credit?

Gotta go my BS meter is stuck and I have to try and turn it off before the neighbors turn me in again for disturbing the peace.

 

Ah yes, I guess not everyone does well enough in school to earn grants. Again, your own fault . I dont survive on min. wage because i make much more than min wage. Ive explained HOW IT CAN BE DONE. Because apparently, its like walking on water for people in this thread. I dont shop at a thrift store LOL. I DONT NEED TO. I have enough money to not worry about those things. I have things because I work hard to afford them.

24 x 7 = 168 hours. 168 - 40 = 128 hours.

 

There is only a lack of awareness from the right wing posters on here. They start new threads hoping that posters will let them rant without pointing out the truth AGAIN.

 

No life isn't. It's a fact of life. However we try and make it fairer, it why the government provides education, libraries, police and laws. The American education system however is underfunded, with people going to schools on poor areas not receiving adequate education. If you are from a poor family, living in a poor area, with inadequate teachers, or poor school equipment. Where children come from broken homes etc. children will tend to do worse, than those who come from wealthy or well of families,living in better areas with better schools.

This sort of cyclical life for poor families, where they grow up in poor areas, receive bad education, have to work a low paid job, and so the problem starts for the next generation.

Some of the fairest societies, Sweden, Norway, Finland, also have some of the best education systems. They also have the most social mobility.

The increase in minimum wage will help lift families out of poverty, lifting children out of poverty, allowing a better quality of life for the child, and more than likely a better education. This will allow for a better educated work force.

For the first time ever, today's children in America are on average dumber then the previous generation. American adults have actually failed to educate their children, in other words they have failed the next generation.

 

Only a slum lord would do that, hell I have a rental house, I don't even know what my renters earn per month. Don't care either, my rent is based on what the house is worth, not what my renters can afford (in my mind anyway)

Now explain to me why an employee earning an extra $80 a week would have anything to do with you raising your rent.

 

LOL. So Obama is behind the fast food workers going on strike?

My, my, my you have an active imagination.

I guess no worker has ever gone on strike for higher wages before Obama was born.

The fact is that some people who have the balls are tired of the 1% gaining while the rest of us are on an economic treadmill.

But you can continue to be the docile couch potato watching the Kardashians if you want.

 

"you go to a thrift store so I can afford a bentley" LOL

 

Explain to me why a landlord , food store, luxury items, etc.... wouldnt charge more when they know americans can now afford more?

 

Stop trying to make this about me, and stop spouting nonsense as if it is from your personal experience. If you made so much money you wouldn't be shopping at the thrift store, and bartering for rent. When you get ready to deal with reality let me know.