Federal lawmakers seek to deregulate gun silencers

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  1. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    Then remove yourself from the discussion.
     
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    Ban silencers.
     
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    You have had your say. There is nothing left for yourself to contribute beyond this point. Leave the discussion.
     
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    Ban silencers, and for those who can get a license to purchase one, tax it 1000%.
     
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    Thus demonstrating, once again, that there is absolutely nothing left on the part of yourself to contribute to the discussion other than a blind, seething hatred, that exists for no reason other than hating for the sake of hatred.
     
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    Further we need to ban all imported silencers.

    P.S. As far as "hatred"? I'm not the one trying to make it easier for murderers, you are.
     
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    There is no evidence, none whatsoever, to demonstrate that sound suppressors aid criminals of any sort, to any degree. Reducing the muzzle report of a firearm to below the point it damages the hearing of anyone in the immediate area, does not render them quiet enough to go unnoticed. What is simply not understood by yourself, for whatever reason, is that the level of sound is not less audible, it is simply less damaging.
     
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    So my reconnaissance team had a Swedish K with a suppressor to make it easier for the VC to capture us?

    Ha ha, funny stuff.

    The gap in working knowledge between civilians, law enforcement, and other non military, and military both present, and former, is staggering.

    Tell me again how a select fire weapon operating in full auto is as accurate as that weapon is in semi mode. That was hilarious.
     
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    Just stay in semi auto and fire will be accurate until the barrel wears out.....
    I have always been good with full auto and hit my target.
    My next LE job will include lots of full auto guns.
     
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    Yes, it is.
    Your era is obsolete.
     
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    Yeah sure.
     
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    We get it... with no logical appeal, you hate guns, you hate gun owners, you hate those that train with their guns, you hate gun accessories..... we get it.
     
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    We get it... with no logical appeal, you hate guns, you hate gun owners, you hate those that train with their guns, you hate gun accessories..... we get it.
     
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    semi auto are not capable of firing with the same rate of fire as their full auto conterparts. that is not going to change, no matter how many times you claim otherwise.
    They were going by reports from the scene. Listening to the videos, it sounded like it may have been full auto. But the actual rate of fire is slower, since the firearm was in fact semi auto.


    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...ar_(firearm)&usg=AOvVaw3NLnFw3p-Kl3IrxyNTfLJE
     
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    Please, stop, look and listen

     
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    This is from your source...... In a firearm, the sear is the part of the trigger mechanism that holds the hammer, striker, or bolt back until the correct amount of pressure has been applied to the trigger

    The sear releases the hammer everytime you pull the trigger. Nothing else, doesn't control anything else, certainly not the rate of fire.
     
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    the sear controls the rate of fire. An auto sear allows the hammer to fall with a continues hold of the trigger, while a semi auto sear requires the trigger to be pulled each time.

    It's why in most HK's, the sear is the actual "machine gun" or class III item. You can buy a single HK sear and place it in several other "host" guns to change the rate of fire from semi auto to full auto.
     
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    When I think of "rate of fire", I think of "rounds per minute". Not a switch that chooses full auto or semi.
     
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    which the sear controls
     
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    Which dos not explain how the sear regulates the rate of fire for any particular firearm.

    Does every single fully-automatic firearm in existence possess the exact same rate of fire? If one can be operated at a rate of twelve hundred rounds per minute, does every one operate at a rate of twelve hundred rounds per minute?

    See above. The link explains absolutely nothing.
     
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    prior to the attack this may have passed, doubt it will now, I heard today republicans are pushing a bill to ban bump stocks I think it was called, that the killer used, glad to see it
     
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    What was heard was incorrect. Rather it is being pushed by the likes of Dianne Feinstein and other liberal democrats.
     
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    lol, it literally explains how it does that in the link.


    I never made any such claim.


    no, you just don't understand how firearms operate. The link specifically explains how a sear functions, and that it controls whether it's semi auto, or full auto.
     
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    It does not.

    Then cease and desist with claiming that a semi-automatic firearm cannot be discharged with the same speed as a fully-automatic firearm, since there is no uniform rate of fire.

    The sear does nothing to control how many rounds of ammunition can be physically discharged within a one minute period of time. Such is controlled by the weight of the recoil buffer, and the strength of the recoil spring. The stronger the spring, the slower the speed. All the sear does is allow for a firearm to be switched from one mode of operation to another.
     
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