Feminism and McCarthyism

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  1. ryobi

    ryobi Well-Known Member

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    Feminists use the term mysoginist the same way McCarthy used the term Red.

    Criticize feminism and that automatically makes you a Misogynist just like criticizing McCarthy automatically made you a communist.
     
  2. Daniel Light

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    And you are using the term feminism the same way McCarthy used the term Red. Painting strokes with a mile long brush.
    I'm not impressed.
     
  3. ryobi

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    Oh dang! and I was trying to impress you.

    The worse opinion someone has of me who is a member of a supremacist hate movement like feminism the better.

    So, Thank You
     
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    The crucial difference is McCarthy was actually right.

    feminists are lying through their teeth.
     
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    Please elaborate.
     
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    I get the impression that the men who create these threads and seem so threatened with "Feminism" do not have much experience with what it actually is (or indeed the gender it involves), and are in some way threatened by females becoming as powerful as themselves in society. Myself, I rarely hear even the term anymore unless coming from the threatened men...kinda sad actually.

    I suggest enjoying women instead of fighting them...you might enjoy it significantly more.
     
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    It depends on how you define "feminism."

    Moderate Feminism. For me, and most likely millions of other women, feminism is the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men. That is a sound, legal, moral and logical approach. An example of this kind of feminist would be Laura Bush and Christiane Amanpour

    Then there is the far right feminism which is heavily influence by religions such as Christianity and Islam. The word feminism at this extreme gets confusingly bastardized but can be basically summed up by saying a feminist is any female who does not recognize that a male is superior to a female in all things, by Gods design. An example of a (Christian) feminist would be Sarah Palin or Michele Bachmann.

    Finally you have your far left, militant or radical feminist. Thee would be feminists who seek to abolish patriarchy by challenging existing social norms and institutions, rather than through a purely political process. Like with the far right, these feminists seek no and have no synchronicity with the moderates. Examples would be Robin Morgan.

    Misogynists are simply men who hate women... for whatever reason and can be found unfortunately, in the far right political and religious groups.
     
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    I would be delighted to hear your explanation as to how you have reached your conclusion.
     
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    Time has proven McCarthy right. Cultural marxists did infiltrate and detroy society.

    Time has proven that the driving feminists were lesbians who've driven a rift between the two sexes and hollowed out a bubble beneath the Western world, so that we are living on borroed time. Our grandchildren will be travelling bumkins without a nation.
     
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    I'm not acquainted with time in your aspect. If you mean History, I have no idea which history you are referring to. In it's most basic form, feminism is about EQUALITY between men and women......Equal pay, equal rights, equal opportunity, etc. I'll admit, getting there has been a bump in the road forcing many men to to change their attitudes and beliefs and there are still old school relics who see women only on the terms of being June Cleaver, only more more subservient to men. I definitely don't agree with radical feminism.

    If you want to maintain the status quo of pre-feminist days; Male ownership of females, dominance, etc, don't mince with words, just say it it.

    Another point, McCarthyism is the practice of making accusations of subversion or treason without proper regard for evidence. It also means "the practice of making unfair allegations or using unfair investigative techniques, especially in order to restrict dissent or political criticism." I would love to see the rationale or logic behind linking McCarthy with today's moderate feminism.
     
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    There is nothing moderate about it.
     
  12. ryobi

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    OK...

    How about this quote by a moderator at debatepolitics named Gina,

    Gina Wrote, """""Oh, goodie! A piece of **** thread by a piece of **** poster, now in my house so I can call a woman-hating misogynist out for being the low-life (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) that he is""""

    The reason she wrote this is I created a thread titled, "rape is wrong. it's always wrong, regardless of gender, regardless of whether you're married or not" in response to a poster who believes it's OK for a man to rape his wife, and as a feminist she was so threatened by an egalitarian defending the rights of women that she closed the thread because it didn't fit her misogynist narrative.

    I've been called a misogynist by feminists for simply posting a scientific study, a scientific study with no analysis, just the study, and nothing else.

    That's using anti-intellectualism in order to restrict dissent or political criticism, just as McCarthy used anti-intellectualism to restrict dissent and political criticism.
     
  13. Daniel Light

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    Who said I was a feminist. I was merely pointing out the intellectual dishonesty of your premise.
    Thou seems to feel pulling random accusations from thy rear is a valid form of debate.

    It is not.
     
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    Your opinion is that women having equal rights is not a good thing. I seriously misjudged you. Glad I know now.
     
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    Your story almost brought me to tears.....I lied. In the future, if you ever want to discuss this topic logically, minus any anecdotes, let me know.
     
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    There are exceptions to every rule. There was even a Nazi who saved Jews, Oschar Schindler. Oschar Schindler saved thousands of Jews. However, most Nazis did not save Jews.

    So you expect me to acknowledge every exception to the rule, like Oschar Schindler??? That's ridiculous.

    There may be a few exceptions. There may be a few feminist who don't use anti-intellectualism to slince debate but those people are no more feminists than Oschar Schindler was a Nazi regardless of what they chose to call themselves.

    Read these excerpts for a feminist dictionary. It doesn't get more mainstream than your ideaologies dictionary:

    From 'A feminist Dictionary', edited by Kramarae and Triechler, Pandora Press, 1985:

    MALE:...represents a variant of or deviation from the category of female. The first males were mutants...the male sex represents a degeneration and deformity of the female.

    MAN:...an obsolete life form... an ordinary creature who needs to be watched...a contradictory baby-man...
     
  17. Daniel Light

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    OK.

    I point out the intellectual dishonesty of your premise and instead of reflecting on the possibility, you up the foolery with by bringing
    in Nazis.

    Reductio ad Hitlerum.
     
  18. ryobi

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    My premise is as 'intellectually dishonest' as saying the Nazis hated the Jews
     
  19. Daniel Light

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    Goodwin's Law. Read it.
    Hyperbole. Understand it.
     
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    There are no other people as full of hatred as feminists which is consistent with people who chose to be members of a supremacist hate movement like feminism.
     
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    Analogy. Read it.
    Analogy. Understand it.
     
  22. Daniel Light

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    And your analogy is that feminists are Nazis.
    Back to Goodwin's Law.
     
  23. ryobi

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    In general women tend to abuse positions of authority that's probably why most of the people that abuse children are women.
     
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    And we get to the root of your crusade against women - one of them hurt your feelings in a workplace environment.

    Next.
     
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    Watch this video of dozens of feminists sexually and physically assaulting peaceful passive men while thousands of feminists cheer them on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU8xjYcAZRw

    There's a very good reason people call feminists feminazis.
     

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