So you're saying women are a minority even though I'm pretty sure there are more women than men in America and feminists are justified sexually and physically assaulting peaceful passive men???
Thus your bias. You start from a predetermined conclusion that I am a woman, when I am a man, and you assume that I I will ignore the evidence when I have read it. FYI this is not the first time I have seen this study. http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender Wage Gap Final Report.pdf
Ok you asked for a study. Here's a study. Why is women 's domestic violence denied by feminists if feminism is an equality movement??? Why is woman's domestic violence threatening to feminists if feminism is an equality movement??? Shouldn't an equality movement care about violence rather than denying it exists???? Hit like a Girl: Women Who Batter Their Partners Theresa Porter Abstract Domestic violence by women represents a blind spot for western society. Since 1977, multiple large scale international studies have demonstrated the women can and do beat, batter and murder their male and female intimate partners at a rate equal to or higher than that of man, yet this issue is not simply ignored but denied by society at large. Women’s use of domestic violence is misrepresented by the media and denied by feminists, both of whom find the topic threatening. Despite this gender symmetry in domestic violence, media representations display male perpetrators 10 times more often than they display female perpetrators and when it is displayed, it is usually shown as humorous. For the media and the society it caters to, domestically violent women represent a failure of social control; women are not behaving in the expected manner. For feminists, domestically violent women threaten the victim paradigm upon which much of Second Wave feminist was based. This paper will examine the prevalence of domestic violence by women against their intimate partners, explore the societal myths and gender dogma that both hides and perpetuates this form of violence by women. 1. Introduction 2. Denial and misrepresentation in research Yet if one were to ask most people, they would deny awareness of the extent of women’s domestic violence in western culture. This is in part due to the denial and misrepresentation of the issue by several groups, including Second Generation feminists, researchers and the media. The discourse on gender symmetry in intimate partner violence by Second Generation feminists often involves claims that women’s violence is less injurious than men’s violence, as if this is a relevant issue. No one should be subjected to abuse, regardless of their physical strength. This argument also ignores the women victims in violent lesbian relationships, where the difference in body strength can be supposed to be less pronounced. Finally, it is important to recall that women compensate for any discrepancy in size by using weapons more often than do men12. 3. Denial and misrepresentation in media and society 4. Consequences [...] Ultimately, all violence is complex and multi-determined with individual, social and cultural factors47. Women’s intimate partner violence occurs in the context of a significant double standard about violence and gender, with women’s violence seen as funny or unimportant, or simply not seen at all. It is somehow always circumstantial and beyond women’s control. It is time to move beyond simplistic, dichotomous thinking and biased research and recognize all types of intimate violence in order to stop it
Good science is not starting from a anecdotal conclusion that throws out as many anecdotes as you can that conform to a predetermined conclusion. Good science starts from a question and allows the evidence to lead to the conclusion... and when I say evidence I mean all evidence. A trend is not synonymous with all in a group as a trend has no set size nor are anecdotes a reliable basis to assess a trend.
Although additional research in this area is clearly needed, this study leads to the unambiguous conclusion that the differences in the compensation of men and women are the result of a multitude of factors and that the raw wage gap should not be used as the basis to justify corrective action. Indeed, there may be nothing to correct. The differences in raw wages may be almost entirely the result of the individual choices being made by both male and female workers. Choice is not discrimination - - - Updated - - - Ok you asked for a study. Here's a study. Why is women 's domestic violence denied by feminists if feminism is an equality movement??? Why is woman's domestic violence threatening to feminists if feminism is an equality movement??? Shouldn't an equality movement care about violence rather than denying it exists???? Hit like a Girl: Women Who Batter Their Partners Theresa Porter Abstract Domestic violence by women represents a blind spot for western society. Since 1977, multiple large scale international studies have demonstrated the women can and do beat, batter and murder their male and female intimate partners at a rate equal to or higher than that of man, yet this issue is not simply ignored but denied by society at large. Women’s use of domestic violence is misrepresented by the media and denied by feminists, both of whom find the topic threatening. Despite this gender symmetry in domestic violence, media representations display male perpetrators 10 times more often than they display female perpetrators and when it is displayed, it is usually shown as humorous. For the media and the society it caters to, domestically violent women represent a failure of social control; women are not behaving in the expected manner. For feminists, domestically violent women threaten the victim paradigm upon which much of Second Wave feminist was based. This paper will examine the prevalence of domestic violence by women against their intimate partners, explore the societal myths and gender dogma that both hides and perpetuates this form of violence by women. 1. Introduction 2. Denial and misrepresentation in research Yet if one were to ask most people, they would deny awareness of the extent of women’s domestic violence in western culture. This is in part due to the denial and misrepresentation of the issue by several groups, including Second Generation feminists, researchers and the media. The discourse on gender symmetry in intimate partner violence by Second Generation feminists often involves claims that women’s violence is less injurious than men’s violence, as if this is a relevant issue. No one should be subjected to abuse, regardless of their physical strength. This argument also ignores the women victims in violent lesbian relationships, where the difference in body strength can be supposed to be less pronounced. Finally, it is important to recall that women compensate for any discrepancy in size by using weapons more often than do men12. 3. Denial and misrepresentation in media and society 4. Consequences [...] Ultimately, all violence is complex and multi-determined with individual, social and cultural factors47. Women’s intimate partner violence occurs in the context of a significant double standard about violence and gender, with women’s violence seen as funny or unimportant, or simply not seen at all. It is somehow always circumstantial and beyond women’s control. It is time to move beyond simplistic, dichotomous thinking and biased research and recognize all types of intimate violence in order to stop it - - - Updated - - - So, in other words, you're saying men who criticize feminism are mysoginists.
I do not deny the fact that some women commit domestic violence thus rendering your argument moot. Why you continue to lump all feminists into the same group is a mystery to me. Bring on the next anecdote, or better yet abandon bias and embrace objectivity.
Show me a scientific study proving feminism is an equality movement and not a supremacist hate movement. Show me a scientific study showing equality is the rule and hate is the exception.
Do you have reading comprehension issues???? you didn't answer these questions: Ok you asked for a study. Here's a study. Why is women 's domestic violence denied by feminists if feminism is an equality movement??? Why is woman's domestic violence threatening to feminists if feminism is an equality movement??? Shouldn't an equality movement care about violence rather than denying it exists????
That is you filling in the blanks with your bias. As I read the study there is no definitive conclusion either way. - - - Updated - - - Spoken from a position of ignorance.
lol, "some women," I guess that's one way of putting it lol http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/V75-Straus-09.pdf CURRENT CONTROVERSIES AND PREVALENCE CONCERNING FEMALE OFFENDERS OF INTIMATE PARTNER VIOLENCE Why the Overwhehning Evidence on Partner Physical Violel.1~e1>y"\Vo1ll.enHas Not Been Perceived and Is Often Denied MURRAY A. STRAUS Universi(y o/New Hampshire, Durham, New Hampshire, USA Over 200 studies have found about the same percentage ofwomen as men physically assault partners, and that the risk factors and motivations are mostly the same as for men. Explanations are suggested for why this fundamental fact has not been perceived by the public and practitioners' including concealment and denial by many academics who know the research. Explanations for concealment and denial are also presented, with discussion ofthe adverse effect that misperception and denial have had on prevention and treatment programs, The practical implications of recognizing gender symmetry in partner violence are discussed.
Because some feminists are biased, just as you are biased against feminism. But my argument continues to be that the few do not represent the whole.
So you're saying these are extremists: a supreme court justice, another whos the editor of Ms. Magazine, a former congress women, an advisoress to Al Gores presidential campaign, Authors, and a feminist dictionary
Show me a scientific study proving that feminism is an equality movement and not a supremacist hate movement - - - Updated - - - Now that is a false equivalency
So you're saying a man's value is based on his value to women, which is objectification, which is something feminist have been complaining about men doing to women for eons. Since you're saying it's OK for women to objectify men but it isn't OK for men to objectify women this is more evidence that feminism is a supremacist hate movement.
Would you please stop putting words into my mouth...they taste nasty. No wonder I need to click on "Read Post" to see you. Time to remember why I did it.....Buh Bye.
When the study says the " conclusion is unambiguous," what they're saying is the conclusion is unambiguous. When the study says the " conclusion is unambiguous," what they're saying is the conclusion is unambiguous. Evidence doesn't matter to feminists Evidence doesn't matter to feminists And I'm speeking from a position of experience
When a study uses language like, "unambiguous conclusion," that's as strong as language gets in a scientific study. I'm pretty sure in Newton's paper on the discovery of gravity he writes that his findings suggest that gravity may exist. Scientific papers are notoriously cautious even theories as accepted as Darwin's theory of evolution use language like may and suggest because scientists never consider a theory as complete and with the emergence of Molecular Biology the theory of evolution did change because Molecular Biology explained the mechanism of evolution. So when a study uses language like, "unambiguous conclusion" I'm pretty sure what they mean is their conclusion is unambiguous.
Wrong. Good science starts from a hypothesis based on an observation such as an anecdote and then predictions are made based on that hypothesis and then those predictions are tested. Watson and Crick made a prediction that the results of X-ray diffraction analysis would be an X based on the hypothesis that DNA is helical the results of X-ray diffraction analysis was an X and DNA is helical.
The study says that all but 5% of the 22% wage gap is the result of choice and there's no evidence to suggest the 5% is the result of discrimination. In fact, evidence suggests the 5% is the result of more choice that just couldn't be quantified due to the limitatations of the researcher's model, multivariate regression analysis. The variable that the researcher's couldn't quantify is that women tend to CHOOSE more compensation in the form of benefits. However there was a high R-value (coefficient of correlation) between benefits and other dependant variables in the model. When there is a high R-value between dependant variables in multivariate regression analysis there is said to be colinearity. When there is colinearity you can't tell what's influencing what. Is the dependant variable being influenced by the independant variable, gender or is it being influenced by another dependant variable in the model. But it's likely that every single percent of that 22% is the result of choice, and choice is not discrimination. But you really have to understand multivariate regression analysis to understand why the researchers couldn't account for the 5%.
I never made the claim nor have I see evidence to support the claim. Perhaps you should ask those who made the claim.
