Germany will sell Saudi Arabia 100 war ships

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germany, as most powerful western economy has enough influence in your politics so i dont worry + why would you want to lose one of your strongest allies?

 

That's fine, but you're going to be in for a rude awakening in the coming decades. You can't stop the emergence of libertarian philosophy in America. It is an organic movement percolating from the ground up and is gaining momentum every year. When Obama and company were making the case for open war on Syria, the people of Britain and the US both stood up and said no more. These feelings of non-interventionism are only going to grow in the coming years, and there is nothing you can do to stop it. We will continue to enlighten the people and you will be out on your ass wondering what happened.

Because you're a bunch of welfare cases and we don't need you to be prosperous or secure. We have immense energy reserves, fresh water, and fantastic soil right here at home. We don't need ingrates like you as "allies".

 

sad to disappoint you, but germany on its own has fantastic soil for agriculture and gigantic fresh water reserves. So what are you trying to say? That you want no friendship with us?

 

Size doesn't always matter.

 

Why would I find that disappointing? My point is only that the US has more than enough resources to be self-reliant. We don't need anyone to prop us up. We have HUGE energy reserves, vast fresh water systems, and expansive plains with the best soil on the planet. Why would we need any help from other countries? The only countries with crucial resource markets to the US are Canada and Mexico, and we're on good relations with both countries. The only reason why the US is not energy independent is because of bad politics, but that can be changed, and probably will be changed as more libertarian-minded people influence the country. One of the front-runners for the 2016 Presidency is a libertarian-conservative, Rand Paul. A libertarian-progressive, Robert Sarvis, got 6.5% of the vote in the Virginia governor's election. This is still early stages of libertarian revolution. Younger people are sick and tired of constant warfare and intervention. They will not tolerate it for much longer.

Of course not. I support free trade and travel between our countries. The more we do business and exchange culture in a peaceful manner, the better it is for both us. I just oppose subsidizing your country's defense. We have common interests in international trade waters and important hubs like naval ports, but other than that, you need to pay for your own army and your own facilities in that region. As you've already noted, we are going broke and cannot afford to subsidize the entire world's defense. It's not a question of if it will end, but when it will end. The American empire is crumbling.

 

I've been mentioning welfare cases and left out the Saudis. My God, they are the worst of them all. They and Israel ought to be the first ones cut off. Israel still hasn't admitted its complicity with that traitor LBJ in the attack on the USS Liberty.

 

why should we be friendly towards you when you offer us nothing that we want? Beside that, germany already rules the entire EU, if we also build up a gigantic army, i think many others like russia would be scared.

How would you calm them down then?

 

Because trade is mutually beneficial. That's basic economics. And like I said, we don't need Germany to be prosperous in the US. We have enough riches and capital in North America to be independent of Europe and Asia. The biggest problem is domestic policy. We just have too many stupid agents and bureaucrats crushing free enterprise, but that can be changed.

By encouraging free trade and travel between nations of the world. Times of peace and commerce are much preferable to times of war and conflict. Plus, I don't think Germany or Russia would actually go to war. It would be devastating for both countries, and the US could not be counted on to bail out Germany. Personally, I don't have any problem with the people of Russia either. I think we should all just trade and exchange culture freely.

 

no, since many US products are banned here and have zero acceptance like chlorine chicken and GMO crap.

Beside that, no, free travel could mass trigger poverty immigration into germany. No thanks.

 

Unfortunately for you, your country has these guys called "economists" who will explain to the people of Germany that trade with the US is mutually beneficial, and that cutting off trade and travel with the biggest capitalist market in the world would be a stupid idea. But, if you were somehow able to convince the German people of your stupid idea, it would hurt Germany much more than the US. Like I've said repeatedly, we are already stinking rich with energy reserves, fresh water, and lots of good soil. We also have good relations with Canada and Mexico, countries that are also rich in natural resources. And it's not like the US needs Germany's permission to trade with other countries around the world. Perhaps Russians would be more responsive to American free trade than Germany and we could both get richer at your expense. It's not really our concern.

 

we already banned your products like GMO here. WalMart was pushed into bancrupsy here and monsanto kicked out. if we consider something negative, we kick it out. its that simple.

And i hope your bla bla goes both ways. will your Boeing protectionism stop? your army actually prefers our airbus but was forced from american politicians to buy boeing. is that your freetrade utopia?

Our economy is much more powerful than yours. yours has a gigantic deficit while we have a surplus...and your stupid government even critisize us for being so sucessfull. i guess you cant accept hard competition.

And if you look in new future, we plan a permanent settled moon base. will be intersting how you will react then. i hope you have no problem then and in general with us defending fiercly our interests.

 

Be patriotic all you want, I could give a damn, but you're acting like your country's crap doesn't stink. I've been stationed in your country, it was pretty nice. The people weren't as annoying as you. Yes Germany is known for some great engineering feats, but you seem to forget that after you're forefathers went ape (*)(*)(*)(*) crazy and tried killing everyone in Europe, the victors wanted to leave Germany a wasteland and a third world country. It was America that stepped in and funded the rebuilding of your country. It was also the Allies, the British, French, and the US that helped keep the Soviets out of the prosperous side of Germany. My great uncle died fighting Nazi madness in Normandy. I As a little kid, my familylived in Germany . I would go months at a time without seeing my dad, because he was with his unit in the Fulda gap, standing guard against the Soviets. My dad went without his father as well, because my grandfather was in Germany doing the same thing.

So ya, so maybe you need to try some humble pie, because Germany didn't get to this point in history without a bunch of help. But don't worry, you're not alone
There's allot of my own countrymen who act just as arrogant as you do.

 

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Who they going to hire to man those boats? Philippinos?

 

Germany exports 7% to the US and imports 5.5% from the US. US is one of Germany's primary trade partners. It's a fantasy to think you country would not accept free trade and travel with the US if it were offered in good faith. Trade and exchange is great for everyone. It makes everyone richer and happier.

No way. Libertarians want real free trade agreements. We reject protectionism and collusion between officials and corprations. It is economically deleterious for the majority of people.

Well, the "economy" in the US is highly heterogeneous. Texas has been experiencing robust growth for over a decade now. They pretty much powered right through the global recession. Our energy boom could be much larger if it weren't for stupid politicians in Washington DC. And I do not have a problem with competition at all. It improves quality and drives down prices. What's not to like?

Private space development and exploration will become the new norm. SPACEX is already showing the world that it will be the future in space flight. There is even a private effort underway to permanently colonize Mars, and they believe they can achieve this in the 2020's. Privatization and decentralization via technology are going to transcend your nationalist sentiments and inclinations. It's a revolution without borders, and it's time has come...

 

1.4 billion will not buy more than 3 or 4 'ships' but might buy a lot of small craft...nice deal but not much of a change in the balance of power...

 

The US imported 44 billion in goods to Germany last year. Germany exported 105 billion in goods to the US last year. So you hardly know what you're talking about

 

Dude wtf are you talking about? Even in our economic slump, our Gross National Product in 2013, was more than double Germany's.
Next you have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to our military use of Aircraft. The C-130 is one of the most durable trasport and cargo planes out there. Boeing exports c-130s to 27 different nations, and 14 of them are European nations. Dude stop talking out of your ass.

 

Lets not forget the C-17 Globemaster has more than double the lift capability than the A400M, just like it has more than double the range.

 

Maybe we wouldn't.

 

Germany wants our money. It's entire economy is export dependent. Germany won't build up a "gigantic Army". In case you have not figured it out yet--the entire EU scheme has always been part of a plan to keep Germany enslaved to its neighbors. Your country has been played for a fool and has given up its sovereignty in the name of "business".

 

Oh how sad.

Maybe you try some of your own pie, because what you say is bull(*)(*)(*)(*). You talk like i should be thankful? Thankful for what? Germany did always rise on top in evry historic period, simple because we are good in what we do. Evrything else you did was selfinterest and nothing else. Nations have interests and not friends in case you didn't know.

 

in germany, people dont take (*)(*)(*)(*). Many things you have like GMO are not accepted here and will never be accepted. People even destroyed the testing fields and our giv. banned it completly.

 

the EU is our slave now. We dictate to evryone, italy france, uk...what we say is law. We simply did buy them and its a nice feeling. As Merkel said: europe speaks german now. they could never govern themself, now they learn discipline.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/p...ive-germany-the-empire-its-always-dreamed-of/

 

im talking about tanking planes.

beside that, GDP is not an indication for economic power, we are ine third of your people, with a gigantic export surplus. Our nation even runs on profit, while your is bancrupt and in debt. I have no respect for your people and you can't force me to have respect for something that i consider losers.

Our largest bank showed what we think about you guys, The deutsche bank made cheap loans for evry poor in the usa and earned billions, Then packed all the trash loans into complicated fonds and sold it to american banks and insurance corporations, who were to stupid to see the risk. Deutsche Bank left the scene and the bomb exploded, creating the biggest collapse in your economy than centuries.