Mandatory training in firearm use prior to the purchase of a firearm would help the "don't be stupid" actually become reality. This would be one aspect of "gun control", which doesn't necessarily have to consist of a "gun BAN". I agree that a ban would be a stupid (and unconsititional) move, but CONTROL is another topic entirely. As for the heat map, are you looking per capita? Obviously an more densely populated area (as per most of the areas that traditionally vote Democrat) SHOULD have a proportionately higher crime rate.
Yes. Democrats control less of the populations local districts compared to republicans but there districts are far more dangerous. Top 30 worst cities they run gobble up 76% of the nations murders. Nowhere near 76% of the population either.
I could point out that suicide is generally regarded as cowardly in Western cultures, an easy way out. In Eastern cultures, suicide has traditionally been regarded as honorable. As a result, people contemplating such extreme actions in Western civilizations are less likely to take that step (they don't want to be remembered as a coward), whereas people in Eastern civilizations don't have that deterrent.
Really? Then why (of the hundreds of ways a person could choose to kill themselves) are 56% of all male suicides undertaken with a firearm? This seems odd given that EVERYONE has access to pills, whereas not everyone chooses to have a firearm within reach... http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/suicide-datasheet-a.PDF
Why do liberals want people making the choice to commit suicide have to do so in a painful and long lasting way? Why attack those people? Shouldnt a woman have the same right to end her own life as she does the child in her belly, with a safe and easy way? Do liberals want woman to shove coat hangers in their ears?
That's interesting because - according to the FBI's latest statistics - the worst states/Districts for total crime per capita (combined 'violent crime' and 'property crime') are: - District of Columbia - South Carolina - Loisiana - Arkansas - Tennessee - New Mexico - Florida - Alabama - Georgia - Delaware - Arizona - Texas - North Carolina http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-5 Awful lot of red in there...
If you omit Chicago, Detroit, and DC, the murder rate in the US is lower than that in most countries. Couldn't find the thread.
you wont find that percentage, which is odd because that would be a good argument for either anti gun or pro gun folks. but as far as coming down on those who own illegally, trust me even pro gun folk wouldnt mind that one bit. the problem with gun control policies from the left is they want to attack the law abiding citizen much more than the true criminal element .
The black belt in the south is the bluest part of the nation. Surely the democrats who run Birmingham are to blame for its problems they have been there forever. Etc... Want to see something fun look at a county crime map of Florida and the Obama vote map. No different.
Police errors may have caused victims their lives in CT home-invade horror I am a retired 20 year Armored Truck courier and a Combat Pistol Shooting Champ. I've had to face armed assailants twice in those 20 years. I prefer to rely on myself rather than waiting for police if armed thugs break into my house, it'll be the last mistake they ever make if they don't freeze when I tell 'em to.
Few things are more improper in a forum than to post false words under the caption of " Originally Posted by", when those words were NOT posted by that poster. I did not say "And if blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, we quite probablycould see blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah" This post was reported, and Mods, please delete Post # 13, and impose an infraction for it. Here's what the post REALLY said >>> "And if we factored in all the times guns in the home were "used" self-defensively, to stop violence and other crime, without ever being fired, we quite probably could see 1000 times as many of those as unintentional shootings, criminal assaults or homicides, or attempted or completed suicides. Another example of common knowledge/sense easily trumping the statistics Gods. "
Arguing that guns should be kept legal by posting stories of good deeds done with guns is a dangerous game to play , because it opens the door for people to argue that if good things being done with guns is a reason to keep guns legal, then bad things being done with guns is a good reason to make them illegal. Do some of you people EVER think before making an argument? I don't care how much good or bad is done with guns, it's irrelevant to the fact that I have the right to own guns. I don't have to justify that right to anyone. ^ That is all the argument that needs to be made in favor of gun rights.
So what would you suggest as a policy to 'come down on those who own illegally' without impacting lawful owners?
How about a mandatory minimum sentence of 20 years for anyone who uses a gun for an illegal purpose, just for starters.
Are you seriously trying to say that the crime rates in red states are higher than in blue states because of the Democrats who live there? That's completely illogical since that reasoning would automatically mean that blue states should be higher... - - - Updated - - - I can understand that driving an armored truck is the type of job where you'd be highly likely to encounter criminals, so OF COURSE you'd carry a weapon. How many times have you been home and had someone break in?
Umm yeah, let's be realistic here. A group that comprises of roughly 13% of the population makes up 80% of the criminals in this nation. We're all adults here , supposedly, and we should be able to discuss where those people live without devolving into childish antics. They live in URBAN areas which exist in both "red" and "blue" states.
easy, make very harsh punishments for those who own weapons illegally and for those who are caught selling weapons illegally. automatic 25 years minimum in prison for owning/carrying/selling a gun illegally. make it really matter, because criminals wont give a damn if you put a weapons limit on law abiding citizens or get sent to jail for a few months. Its funny how liberals easily come up with ways to limit the law abiding, but they have no clue what so ever how to deal with the criminal element.
What I did was illustrate that your post was self-defeating since it all hinged around the term "...we quite probably could..." In other words, the whole ramble was unfounded assumption (not even clearly stated as opinion). The fact that you feel insulted by something, does not make it an insult. In my opinion, dialling down the sensitivity would be in order.
wrong, lets take Tennessee for example. the state is "red" because most of the state is conservative based. except for Memphis which is democrat ran and has a high majority of blacks, right around 70% black, and it is one of the most violent cities in the country. the rest of Tennessee has a very low crime rate. why dont you do a little research, its sad to say it but areas with a high percentage of african american residents are always high crime areas.
I'd agree with that, even though we already imprison a larger percentage of our population than any other country in the world (including Iran), and spend more on the average prisoner than we do on the average student... Would you agree to any measure that might prevent a criminal act in the first place, or is mopping up the mess afterwards good enough?
In our current system, how would you catch someone selling or buying a firearm illegally? I'll choose not to reply to the "flame bait" portion of your post...
Ever wonder why that is? Do you believe it's a function of population density, education, wealth distribution, etc...?
