Hawaii Man Who Supports Having Sex With Children Blocked From Becoming Teacher

Of course it is. It's as easy as a Multiple Personality looking into a Mirror and only seeing one face looking back.

it's reality.

Anything that makes reality "more complicated" is the problem today.

Not sure what you mean by the bolded, could you elaborate on that please?

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You are reading textbook, make everyone feel good about themselves, bullcrap. It is that simple, unless of course someone is born with both. Agenda is what tells us it isnt that simple.

You are what you physically are. if your mind has other ideas, your mind needs help. We dont give out 6 licenses to a person who thinks they are 6 people...we know they are not 6 people, we give them one.

 

I understand what you're saying. I don't want people who want to have sex with kids teaching kids. But I'm concerned with the govt policing our thoughts about it. He wasn't planning how to rape them, he was saying it should be legal.

I can lose my certificate if I fail a drug test or get arrested for drugs in my system. I can lose my certificate if I repeatedly DUI and get caught. and I should

but should you deny a 20 something his certificate because he wrote a paper on how all drugs should be legalized? I can tell you, I wrote a similar paper and I don't even support legalizing drugs....

where's the line of when thought should be policed and when it shouldn't.

To answer your hypothetical about the nursing home.... i addressed the subtle difference between a principal that knows that this teacher supports child sex and choosing not to hire him, and my objections to the state coming in and preventing him from even getting an interview by refusing the cert.

Because a pro-pot principal could refuse to hire me because I'm outspoken critic of pot legalization, but I shouldn't have my certificate denied because my opinion is not politically correct anymore. Same applies to the old age employee. If his opinion causes a boss to say "pass" is different than the state never allowing him because of a paper he wrote in college. That never allows for change.


if I can't get a job because I'm so anti-pot.... maybe I should either shutup some, or change my position. Which I have changed my positions on topics since college.

 

You have a rigid notion of what human persons are like in real life ...

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There is a difference between "thinking" about something - in a term paper or even out loud … and ADVOCATING something ...

 

then if you support that, do you support banning all homosexual men from teaching?

If you don't understand the question, consider the proclivity of a homosexual male who is 14 times more likely to molest a little boy than a straight man is to molest a little girl

So, is your concern about protecting the children?

 

GLBT persons are not inherently "pedophiles" …
The guy in Hawaii is a professed pedophile ...

 

Flawed math from a flawed study (that even admits the flaw) from a fraud poster.
Who'd would have thought.

Heterosexual men commit the vast majority of child molestations in the US.
Men in general represent almost 100% and the majority of men molesting boys identify as heterosexual in their adult lives so your homosexual ban would accomplish absolutely nothing - but in your eyes the ends justify the means, use children as political fodder to assault homosexuals.

This has been done by your kind for every repressed minority in US history.

 

the statistics of pedophilia, how many are male/male, the population of homosexual men all show a proclivity

Studies have also shown that homosexual pedophiles tend to have more victims than heterosexual pedophiles.

Nobody ever suggests that all homosexual males are pedophiles as the numbers do not support that.

They do however reveal a much higher rate than with heterosexuals. That again might be more evidence to the argument that those who choose the gay lifestyle do so because of some form of mental disorder.

 

ABSOLUTELY agree with the majority of cases

the 2 million annual cases are from 221 million adult heterosexuals

it's when you look at the 1 million homosexual cases and the 8 milliion adult homosexuals is when you are floored

for those who want to believe the spin from the homosexuals, let's get that 8 million number to 221 million like heterosexuals and see what the ratio shows

1 million cases/221 million heterosexuals or 1/221

28 million cases/221 homosexuals or 1/8

staggering as the numbers don't lie. The question becomes, if posters in this forum as well as other homosexuals really claim to care for kids, and are bothered by the guy in Hawaii, then why are they not also more bothered by the strike rate of pedophilia among homosexuals?

 

This is a repeatedly proven lie

also a repeatedly proven lie

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This is also a repeatedly proven lie

 

All lies

The study you fail to reference placed self identified heterosexuals and classified them as homosexual if the molestation was against a boy. Skewing the percent both data sets (the study even admits this). The study was also endorsed by groups with an agenda and had an extremely small (less than 200) sample size over 40 years ago

Statistically irrelivant has been used to describe it by colleges actually studying rates which have (in the last decade) shown no significant elevated chance of offense has been found for homosexual men. Bisexual men are slightly higher than both heterosexual and homosexual. Most offenders have no adult sexual attraction.

Since the majority of men that molest boys self identify as heterosexual what would your ban on self identified homosexuals accomplish? Fifth time I has asked this question that you keep ignoring.

 

You got something correct for once, kind of.
Offenders of male children often reoffend at much higher rates than those of female children, further proving the data set in your above flawed study to be twisted.

Remove them permanently from society after the first offense. Problem solved

So which is it, is the "gay lifestyle" chosen or is it caused by a mental disorder.
It cannot be both

 

The slippery slope started the day hetero couples thought it ok to have sex with the lights on. Once sex became pleasurable, it was off to the races.

And those that are obsessed with gays, even when the story isn't about gays, would just come out of the closet. The mental anguish they live with would subside.

 

as I've said countless times; I wish that medical science could prove that one is born homosexual, or that this or that section of the brain has something going on.

Then we could focus on a cure

Until then, it's just drama

 

It's most likely a combination of factors, especially hormonal and environmental before puberty.
The reality of a cure is unlikely - and seeing how the main problem homosexuals face (per every study on the subject) is bigots I hope they make a cure for it instead.

Sixth time: Since the majority of men that molest boys self identify as heterosexual what would your ban on self identified homosexuals in the school system accomplish?

 

Not so.

You either willingly participate in homosexual sex or you do not willingly participate in homosexual sex.

There are no "in-betweens".

You either do or you don't.

 

Self identify? What a stupid term. If they like guys they are homosexual. if they like underage boys the are homosexual pedophiles. It doesn't matter what they "self Identify" as.

 

Thanks for your insightful post....
Every study on homosexual population size is based off of self identification, sec is calling for the ban of homosexual men in teaching positions baised on this self identification. It shows great bias that you are unable or unwilling to read through less than 5 posts to ascertain the direction of the content.

Medical science, behavioral analysts, and researchers have a separate term for individuals attracted to pre-pubescent children. They are not classified as homosexual or heterosexual because their molestation has less to do with the gender of the child and more with their accessibility.

At issue is a heterosexual male in regards to adult relationships is immediately labeled homosexual by those with an agenda when he molests a boy. Then they use this vs the self identified homosexual population size to achieve an invalid correlation to vilify homosexuals.

 

Maybe you are having trouble with the question, we are talking about secs proposal to ban homosexual males from teaching under the false assumption that homosexual males commit more acts of phedophilia, even though the majority of offenses against young boys is committed by men showing no adult attractions or men in heterosexual adult relationships (typically married).
How do you propose we identify homosexual men beyond self identification?

 

Lol, there is lots of terms for screwed up individuals, as you can see from the acronym..what is it now? LGBTXYZABC? People like to make things complex to justify jacked up behavior, or to make it seem like one case is less screwed up than another. Lets keep it simple. A guy who messes around with a boy is gay as hell. and a pedophile. The gay part, whatever. I don't care. The pedophile part qualifies that person for a painful execution as far as I am concerned. Everything else is just semantics that nobody cares about. Except for gay pedophiles.

 

Pedophiles are not part of the equity push coming from homosexuals/bisexuals.
I disagree that molesting a child is a matter of attraction to the sex of a child, the research I have read validates this claim.

I do agree people that hurt children should be permanently (possibly painfully) removed from society though - so we agree on something.

 

Well, cool. Then you are ok in my book, lol.

 

Yes indeed homosexual sex is indeed acceptable as well as my living with a female that I am not married to and of course interracial marriage and interracial sex......so what does any of those facts have to do with pedophiles???????

 

Holy 11 month bump

but, since you bumped; if you try and insist that homosexual is anything but a chosen sexual lifestyle, then you must also do the same for pedophiles.

So, it's a lose/lose for those of you who have no medical proof.

Either without proof, you insist that one is born homosexual and that is akin to race, so then you must treat pedophiles the same

or

you admit that living the gay lifestyle is in fact a choice, but still demand special priveleges, then same priveleges must be given to all deviant sexual lifestyles

I did not create the slippery slope, leftists did

 

I don't understand your argument? What are you trying to say here, that since homosexuals are born that way so are pedophiles? And since pedophiles are born that way they should be allowed to rape children?

 

IMO, pedophiles & homosexuals are in the same boat, neither chose what turns them on. I feel what consenting adults do in private is none of my business, but I don't feel that way about minors. Children need protection, adults need privacy.