Hawaii Man Who Supports Having Sex With Children Blocked From Becoming Teacher

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  1. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    A child by it itself does not have that capacity unless a parent is stupid enough to just listen to them.

    Gender Identity Disorder is a real diagnosable mental disorder that requires a doctor to diagnose. Kids can no more declare they are another gender and just expect to be treated that way any more than they can declare themselves to be schizophrenic and just expect to get prescription drugs.
     
  2. RichT2705

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    Like getting an abortion at the corner PP without Mom and Dad knowing? Showing up at School dressed as a gender different from what you left the house as, and Mom and Dad not being told?

    That kind of road? We're already driving down it.

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    A doctor cannot "diagnose" this at all, they have to take the word of the child. There are no traits a doctor can pull up to prove this without that child telling him it is so.
     
  3. JavisBeason

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    a doctor can't diagnose gay either.... and we are to take a person at their word for it that they are gay when they don't get a job and think it's because the boss was homophobic.
     
  4. RichT2705

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    No kidding. People try and present these things as if a Doctor looked at MRI's, Catscans, or Whatnot...and came back and surprised the patient with a diagnosis of Transgender....


    Simply isnt happening. Doctors arent diagnosing this at all. they're simply taking the word for it, as they have no way to prove or disprove any of it. And people are playing along with it....but then telling us that same kid doesnt have the capacity to make up his/her mind about having sex?
    We're walking down dangerous road.
     
  5. rahl

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    talking about being able to have sex with a child is talking about raping a child. they are not capable of informed consent.

    I don't support them with that.

    I'm not.
     
  6. RichT2705

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    Well, I guess we finally agree on one Rahl. I'm going to mark this one on my calendar. :mrgreen:
     
  7. tsr

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    Morally this man is wrong and needs help. He states "I think that online child predation should be legal" end of quote well the law is clear as far as this statement goes and he would be breaking the law if caught.
    Now the federal appeals court has backed up the schools right to deny a teaching certificate to this person as it should be." What is alarming this man has a opinion he has not put into play yet.............that is the scary part....
     
  8. JavisBeason

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    that is scary... because at what point is it acceptable for the govt to enforce opinion? Will the govt start denying teaching certs to aspiring teachers, or pulling certs from existing teachers that don't, for example, support Same Sex marriage rights?

    If a principal doesn't hire me because I'm a traditional marriage supporter... that's one thing.... but for the state to come in and prevent me from even applying.... that's completely different.



    FTR though.... the guy is an idiot. I don't support his opinion, but I do support his right to have it without state interference.
     
  9. ChoppedLiver

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    Why are you so inept that you think...er...believe that I need to look up that word?

    Because you're flame baiting?

    Too funny!
     
  10. Teilhard

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    A very young child is fully capable of experiencing and expressing hunger, thirst, fear, and so on, and vey early on begins to under sad that some kids are "boys' and some are "girls" …

    That is nothing about "consent" to a sexual encounter ...

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    Ummm …
    Having sexual feelings is not the same thing as being able to give "consent" to a sexual encounter ...
     
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    Anyone who believes that child sexual PREDATION should be legal is a lowlife scumbag that should not be given the privilege of teaching kids, let alone breathing.

    If it was up to me all these pedophiles would be removed from the gene pool as quickly as possible.
    I'd even volunteer to help out getting rid of these lowest of human beings.


    In some ways my emotional and visceral reaction to these scum is equivalent to those whose animus is directed at gays, which does provide me with some insight into their adamant rejection, even if I don't agree with them.

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  12. RichT2705

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    And when that child sees a Penis between his legs, but insists he is really a Girl......we in society have granted them the mental capacity to know that somehow the physical facts are wrong.and are encouraging them.

    The idea of not being able to "consent" to sex is based around the belief that kids dont possess the necessary mental capacity. Quite inconsistent when compared with our example above.


    Sexual feelings as you call them, which fly in the face of demonstrable fact when encouraged are the same thing. You are putting the childs mental capacity at a level which makes having sex trivial in comparison.
     
  13. Teilhard

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    I hope for his sake he will just SHUT UP and find some way to live a responsible life without harming innocent others, especially children …

    If, however, he persists in his call for sexual violence against children, he likely will some day just turn up missing, and later be found floating face down in a river or in the ocean … And people will just … *shrug* ...
     
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    they are lowlife scum.... but thought is not illegal and should never be policed by the govt. Don't get lost on the fact that in this case, they are punishing a child perv that probably whacks off to kid pictures.... because next year, the govt may start determining that teachers that don't support #SSM should not have certificates.... or the opposit, that supporters of #ssm should lose their certs.
     
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    Sexual "feelings" are not at all the same thing as "gender" identity …

    But, no … By definition, a minor child cannot give "consent" to a sexual encounter …

    Minor children are NOT just miniature adults ...
     
  16. Teilhard

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    This is no case of "thought" policing or any such thing …
    It is simply taking a person at his word, based upon what he advocates in public … and then exercising reasonable caution to protect vulnerable persons (in this case, children) from a potential predator …

    Consider this …

    Suppose a guy is *out*there* in public proclaiming his belief that elderly people who need regular skilled nursing care in order to survive are a drag on society, do not have lives worth living, and should just be euthanized or simply allowed to die through neglect …
    … and the guy goes to school to become a Certified Nursing Assistant and applies for a job at a nursing home full of vulnerable elderly persons who require regular skilled nursing care …

    Hello … ???
     
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    Consumers of child porn support the sexual exploitation of children so him whacking off to child porn contributes to this perversion.

    I agree we cannot have thought police, but in this case he is actually advocating for the exploitation children for sexual purposes.

    As to your "slippery slope" argument its fallacious. Homosexuality is not illegal and is between consenting adults.
     
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    There are of course genetic factors that lead to all kinds of personality and behavioral problems, like pedophilia, homosexuality, violence, sexual predatory behavior and the rest. For those who are unable to control their mental issues and harm others who are too young or unwilling to go along with such unwanted activity acted upon them---they should be put away from society.

    Doing lobotomies on many such people may sound more humane than executing them outright, but the result is so often just another person on welfare the rest of their life. As most rapists are heterosexual men that rape females, castration has shown to be effective perhaps up to 97% of the time. This may allow them to still be a working, functioning part of society, not sucking the welfare dollar.

    http://www.jaapl.org/content/33/1/16.full

    Because of the seriousness and depravity of the crime, all pedophiles should be executed if convicted of sexauly abusing a child---at least one 12 and under.

    Even is there is only a 3% chance they would rape another child after castration, the crime is heinous enough to demand execution.
     
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    Yet they are able to become any gender they wish at some schools, and parents wont be informed. This is mental capacity to choose.

    They can walk into Planned Parenthood and get an abortion...without parents (Legal Adults) knowing or approving. This again is mental capacity.


    Why again, in the face of these 2 examples can they not decide who they love? Make no mistake, I am not advocating for such, I'm simply pointing out that contradictions are happening to the "logic" used to say they cant make this decision.

    Either they have mental capacity for these kind of adult decisions or they do not. When we start treating them as if they do, well then you're going to get the freakshows in the OP and his "cause".
     
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    Developmental biology is a very interesting thing …

    The male "penis" is embryologically a very large "clitoris," that developed as it did under the influence especially of testosterone …
    Rarely, thank God, but with regularity, a child is born with "ambiguous genitalia," such that the attending OB doc and nurses can't readily say if this baby is a "boy" or a "girl" … and on still rarer occasion a child is born in an "inter-sex" state …

    The unambiguously factual existence of GLBT persons (across cultures and throughout history) clearly shows that "gender" and self-perceived gender identity is not so simple as just, "pull down the undies and take a quick look" …

    Human biology is really, really fascinating, and whether we like it or not, that includes all things "sexual" ...
     
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    Interesting response, however we have Medical professionals who spend alot of time in school who determine gender and sign off on official documents stating what a person is at birth.
    Are you saying a child has the mental capacity to inform that Doctor he was wrong?


    We arent speaking of those rare born with both situations, plenty of the people doing this have no such birth defect and yet we are encouraging them.
     
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    Young children have the CAPACITY to engage in sexual activity -- play, exploration, "playing doctor," etc …
    That is not the same thing as "giving consent" to a sexual encounter with a pedophile predator ...
     
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    Do you support a 5 year old boy telling you against science he's really a girl?
     
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    I'm saying that "gender" -- and self-perceived gender identity -- is not so simple as, "pull down the undies and take a quick look" …

    As to the inherently Conservative (and therefore sometimes abusive) medical professional … that is a *mixed*bag* …
    E.g., in the recent past, a child born with a "clitoris" that the doc thought was "too large," was not uncommonly subjected to "corrective" surgery …
    *shudder* ...
     
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    Biology major, here … Trained and experienced mental heath professional …

    Read what I wrote …
    Understanding "gender" and self perceived gender identity is not so simple as, "pull down the undies and take a quick look" … It's just not ..
     

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