Hiroshima at 75: bitter row persists over US decision to drop the bomb

In other words you would prefer to be on the losing side.

 

Is their some reason it could have done both?

 

Was it more evil than firebombing 600k Japanese in Tokyo? Was it more evil than the very nearly literal rape of Nanking?

 

Sadly, when Totalitarian Right had power they were more vicious in suppressing Free Speech then Totalitarian Left in USA 2020. RIP tens of thousands civilians killed by Phoenix Program for being Communist Sympathisers.

 

Both USA and USSR have big flaws in Human Rights Record. Both USA and USSR had great accomplishments. Morally both sides were about equal.

 

Do you really believe we would've lost to the Japanese if we hadn't nuked them?

 

No. I'd say it was about as evil.

Which is every reason to not have done it.

 

Alrighty then - it's okay to drop bombs on people.

I don't know what all the other window dressing was about; China is but one entity which might feel justified in dropping bombs on people - there are many others.

 

They were preparing to surrender - a fact often overlooked in the rush to claim the opposite - but we just had to drop that bomb. And then that other bomb. After all the previous bombs.

 

It obviously shortened the War.

It was a necessary evil. Period.

 

What's more evil to allow expansionist totslitarian regimes to go unchecked or to stop them?

 

The fault lies with a leader who first decides to attack another country. You can't blame the people who are attacked for defending their lives. Isn't it sad that one man can bring such carnage to innocent people. Mohammad Ali was right when he refused to be drafted and said, "I got nothing against them Cong."

 

Many more Americans would have been killed.

 

This is only true if attacking a legitimate target with the knowledge that civilians will die is evil.
If so, the weapon doesn't matter.

 

I believe that Japan was warned prior to the dropping of the bomb to surrender or face total annihilation and the leadership chose to ignore it. If anything Japanese people should be annoyed with the government for failure to heed the warning issued to them by the US.

 

If Japan had surrendered (and I’ve never seen proof they were going to) at the time of or immediately after the time we dropped the big ones without us actually dropping them, what would have been the medium term result? Would Japan have evolved like Germany did between 1920-1939?

I think that possibility has to be considered.

Perhaps the world as a whole, not just Japan, needed an exclamation point to end things, not just a period.

 

Nuclear exchange between the US and USSR, within 10 years.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki gave pause to the wholesale use of said weapons.

 

Greatest ******n decision ever made by a US president. No one with a single functioning brain cell can possibly argue that the tens of thousands of deaths didn't save millions. Millions. I wonder how many of the whiners would even be alive today if the bomb had not been dropped, good chance their grandfather might have been killed in the invasion that had to happen.

 

The Japanese attacked the United States unprovoked raped and pillaged their way through Korea, China, and most of South East Asia, they got what they deserved no mercy. And Germany tried its best to completely exterminate the Jewish people and they don't waste anytime asking anyone for forgiveness.

 

I did not realize we attacked China unprovoked and are at war with them right now. Do you really think you made a good argument? As far as I am concerned this is high on my list of stupid post.

 

What we would have lost...were thousands of American lives...and millions of Japanese lives

 

Noble and all, but that will be of little comfort to the family of our fallen soldiers.

When you are at war you don't do police actions. Police actions only get more people killed needlessly. Why do you think the "war on terror" has gone on for as long as it has? Because they're hard to find? No. Because they hide behind civilians.

 

It seems to me theres a vast gulf between trying to minimize civilian casualties and 'a police action.' Are you suggesting they are the same?

 

Would have been even more bitter if over a million Japanese were killed during a conventional war.

 

Did we save a lot of lives by using the atomic bomb? Yes. Did it shorten the war? Yes. Was it worth it? I don't really know.