How China could use trade embargos to force Canada to end its "no restrictions on abortion" laws

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't say I didn't know what the differences are between states.

    (Although interestingly the state of California tries to hide their abortion statistics, probably because the rate is so bad)
     
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    That is not a justification for jumping to purely racist conclusions.

    You haven't even bothered to determine what the abortion rate is for white folks living in the same circumstances as those you hate.

    Besides, that's not going to be addressed by writing more laws against a predominantly white population.

    You really need to back off your totally racist assumptions if you want to honestly address this issue.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you want to prove your argument, you will have to disprove the alternative theory I proposed.
     
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    You claimed whatever differences exist as support for your demand for even more draconian laws against women.

    If you don't even know what the differences are, that would be pretty damning, wouldn't you agree?
     
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    I don't recall specifically saying that but yes that is inherent in the Pro-Life argument.

    "even more draconian" implies that there are already draconian laws in force, which there are not

    In fact there are many things women are allowed to do with their fetuses in the US that they are not in other Progressive countries.
     
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    No I don't!

    What makes you think THAT?

    I'm saying that you don't have a successful argument. And, the reason is that you can't defend your argument in any reasonable manner.

    I outright reject this racist justification for laws that you propose for the reasons I've stated.

    And, I also point out that you have NOT ONCE suggested you know anything about the reasons that cause women to resort to abortion.
     
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    I presented an alternative explanation that could explain the statistics in a way that doesn't support your argument so much.

    What's unreasonable about it?
    The differences are clearly expressed in the statistics.
    It's not at all unreasonable to suggest that the overall statistical differences between the two countries could likely be due to racial factors (or at least other extraneous factors that happen to be correlated to race, of which the law is not one of them).
     
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    Are you seriously going to suggest that it isn't draconian to hire vigilantes to track down women in Texas for considering taking a course of action supported by our constitution?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you seriously suggesting that "course of action" to which you are referring to is actually supported by the Constitution?

    So what? It's just a snitch hotline.

    Haven't you ever seen a sign above the road that says "Report drunk drivers"?
     
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    You proposed racism. And, that's pure garbage, just for being racism. Beyond that, it isn't justification for laws against a white population of women. And, you didn't even bother to consider the issues with white people in the same social/economic circumstances. AND, you didn't even bother to ask yourself why they make the decision to abort.

    In other words, you didn't even think about ANY of the issues.

    Then, you ask "What's unreasonable"??? Seriously?
     
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    Pointing to statistical facts that happen to be racist is not "proposing racism".
    Especially when I did so to try to disprove a completely separate argument.
     
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    We've already gone through this before.
     
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    That doesn't matter. My point was to disprove your point.

    There is an extraneous outside factor that is about something other than what the law is.
     
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    daddy issues
     
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    LOL - no. Now you are REALLY being pathetic.

    We do not put a $10,000 bounty on the heads of US citizens.
     
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    Yes we do. Haven't you ever watched "America's Most Wanted"?

    Are you saying a $500 bounty would be okay?

    How about they get a free cookie if they call in?
     
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    Of course it is. Good lord!!

    You didn't ONCE suggest looking to see if any of the other divisions in our society is involved. You ONLY looked for stats on ONE dimension - racism. You made your decision before you even started.

    You didn't even once consider looking at this in any way BUT through your racist eyes.
     
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    No we didn't.

    You haven't once commented on this issue, yet you continue to accept this aspect of your assault on women without any explanation.
     
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    I'm still waiting for you to tell me how that disproves my argument.
     
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    That isn't the same thing AT ALL.

    Those bounties are not posted for people to search their neighbors for law breakers - like in WWII Germany or the USSR or Texas.
     
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    I've deconstructed every idea you have proposed.

    If you want more, you need to ask a specific question.
     
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    Go back to my post on page 2 that begins with "Your logic on that one is flawed"
     
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    So a tip hotline is okay, but not handling out monetary rewards?

    You are aware that whistleblower reward programs already exist as part of the law?
    Look up the SEC whistleblower program.

    Maybe you have no problem when it is used for financial crimes but just have a problem when it is used against abortions.
     
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    It is you who has proposed that racial differences in the US justify your demand for laws against women - in the face of the fact that Canada has a lower abortion rate with NO laws, and even with PAYING for abortions.

    But, you have never found a way to support this race based idea of yours.

    I'm not making any stupid "inverse correlation" argument.

    Correlation is no more than a possible justification for looking in a particular place for a possible causation.

    And, you continue to use this racism argument to justify laws against a population that is predominantly white.
     
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    You clearly don't know anything at all about "whistleblower" law.
     

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