How China could use trade embargos to force Canada to end its "no restrictions on abortion" laws

Um, no. We've been over this before.

I proposed racial differences in the US may mean that the underlying assumptions of your argument were incorrect.

Maybe you consider those two the same thing?

 

I would never be open to this tactic for a political issue like abortions. I would be damned if I ever supported an effort with the Chinese against our democratic neighbor or any neighbors for that matter

 

It probably wouldn't be that effective anyway.
China doesn't have that much to give.
No exports that are essential, that is.

Most English-speaking/EU countries that are involved with trade with China have the inherent upper hand if they were trying to work out any type of deal. Yeah, sure, the US could easily exert some serious pressure on China to do something small like this, but China would not be able to exert that same strength of economic pressure on Canada. And besides, China is not anywhere near as reliant on US trade as it was 15 or 20 years ago.

The US already has trouble getting China to put up sanctions against "bad countries" with which China has business dealings with. There would have to be some serious economic pressure put on China to do anything.

 

And this idea that we could get China to put up sanctions against Canada for Canada's abortion policy would just be ridiculous.

Look up "Holocaust of Babies in China".
China's record on abortion almost makes Canada look like a Catholic convent in comparison.

 

You did not do the work to show any aspect of this claim of racism as the key differentiating factor between Canada and the USA. You decided (without evidence) that the only segmentation had to have been race, and then set out to prove your assumption. For example, you did nothing to determine if poverty isn't a more accurate segmentation. And, there could be others, too.

Beyond that, even if one were to assume your race based perspective, it doesn't lead to support for you demand for increased focus on draconian laws against women.

 

Irrelevant. The point is there seem to be other factors that don't have to do with the law.
How exactly I was able to convey that to you doesn't matter.

No, it doesn't "lead to support" per se, but it does neuter most of your argument.

 

I told YOU that. That is the whole point of the Canada example. They have a lower rate even though they have no laws on the topic and pay for abortions.

Then, you continue to feed me your racism hypothesis.

You don't have ANYTHING that opposes my argument in any way.

If you think you do, then please state it clearly in a response to this post.

 

Round and round in circles we go.

 

Maybe like many pro-choicers in this forum, your brain refuses to make any connections that may lead to uncomfortable ideas.

It's already been repeatedly explained to you over and over again, and you still act like you don't understand or you didn't hear the argument.

My counter-arguments to your argument have already been made.

 

I am absolutely NOT going in circles.

I have not changed ANY argument I have made on this thread.

 

No, it's that your proposed argument is garbage.

You don't have an argument that leads to justifying more draconian laws against American women.

And, your racist angle is NOT a valid study of this issue. The primary reason being exactly what I explained - it assumes one possible segmentation of the population while totally ignoring any possibility of any other segmentation.

What you attempt to do with racism is exactly what many have tried throughout the past. It isn't a new approach.

It is an approach that is fully aimed at the idea that black people are somehow lesser beings. And, your follow on to that is for that to be a reason to ignore them when considering policy.

 

You have not made any "counter arguments".

For example, you have NOT found any justification for segmenting the population by white v black on this issue. Obviously, it could have just as much to do with poverty and other situational factors having to do with location, living condition, etc.

For example, you haven't found any justification for using your racist ideas as justification for creating more laws against women.

For example, you have found no sound basis for ignoring the success of Canada.

 

All of your points have already been addressed in this thread.

 

Assuming for the moment that you forgot to address this post to me ...

You have absolutely NOT addressed ANY of the points I've made.

Not one.

 

Presumeably it's to save fetuses since they are of so much value. I don't know.

 

A fetus only has the value the woman it's in gives it...