How much of Palestine should the Arabs get back? - <MOD WARNING>

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How much of Palestine should the Arabs get back?

  1. Gaza & the West Bank up to the Seperation Barrier

    8 vote(s)
    19.5%
  2. Back to the 1967 borders.

    23 vote(s)
    56.1%
  3. Back to UN Resolution 181 borders.

    5 vote(s)
    12.2%
  4. The whole thing.

    5 vote(s)
    12.2%
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  1. HBendor

    HBendor New Member

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    It was NEVER their Land... it is, was, will be forever the Land of Israel!!! Again there was NEVER and independent Palestine that the Jews took over!
     
  2. HBendor

    HBendor New Member

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    Wrong again or rather brainwashed by far fetched inconsistencies, the majority of the Land was owned by four or five rich families Ling in Cairo and Beirut these were contacted and they sold the Land to Jews... You cannot in Israel steal Land for all the Land is registered to owners of to the Keren Kayemet.

    Most of the Arabs do not have ownership papers (KHUSHAN) to substantiate their acquisition, yet they have the goal to claim ownership of the Land.
     
  3. HBendor

    HBendor New Member

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    Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please go back to the Library and read a little before coming here with undefined notions that are not real!
     
  4. Socialism Works

    Socialism Works Well-Known Member

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    I presume your claim is based on those famous Books of Lies, the Bible and the Torah.
     
  5. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    The bottom line is the Palestinians failed to change and adapt to political and social changes the Palestinians continue to use terrorism as their main policy to establish and get recognition for their Statehood for every rockets the Palestinians launch and terrorist attacks against Israel, Israel responded with land settlement building communities increasing the borders of Israel.

    The solution to peace is very simple:
    1. Palestinian authority have to renounce terrorism against Israel
    2. Recognize Israel's right to Statehood
    3. Recognize the right of Israel to a secure border
    4. Work with allies such as with UK, USA, Jordan, or Israel in defeating HAMAS

    Once that is accomplish there will be no reason for Israel to continue to expand settlement in what is being claim as Palestinian territories.
     
  6. MVictorP

    MVictorP Well-Known Member

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    This is impossible. Why, because the Palestinians won't accept it? That would be normal, since it's an un-acceptable proposition.

    Bu no; it is utopia because Israel itself will sabotage it. If the Palestinians indeed accepted such ridiculous, one-sided terms, and by some hive-mind miracle prevent all individual act of terror/revenge, the Israelis would be then prevented from seizing their land. Bye-bye Eretz Yisrael, end of zionism.

    There can be no peace as long as the abomination, the apartheist regime is in a position of power, or even exists.
     
  7. HBendor

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    And the Jews intermarried with the Canaanite through the years... There are no more Canaanite today but just Israel.
     
  8. HBendor

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    MANDATE FOR PALESTINE
    Preamble

    The Council of the League of Nations:
    Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have agreed, for the purpose of giving effect to the provision of Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations, to entrust to a Mandatory selected by the said powers the administration of the territory of Palestine, which formerly belonged to the Turkish Empire, within such boundaries as may be fixed by them ; and
    Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favor of the establishment of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country ; and
    Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the ground for reconstituting their national home in that country ; and
     
  9. HBendor

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    Nonsense... please reread the articles of the Mandate.
     
  10. HBendor

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    There was no Palestinian people... there were Arab squatters... like the 11 million illegals in the US.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/leagcov.asp#art22

    Palestine was one of those "former communities" under the prior control of the Turkish Empire and it was provisionally recognized as an independent nation where Great Britain was temporarily assigned as the Mandatory to develop the government while it was supposed to keep the "wishes" of the Palestinian people as it's guiding principle. Of course the British completely ignored the wishes of Palestinian people in it's administration of Palestine as Mandatory and this is best reflected by the British Mandate for Palestine that the Palestinian people highly objected to.
     
  12. HBendor

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    Zophronius.
    They received the Keys of Jerusalem from Archbishop Zophronius... does not make it a conquest...
     
  13. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    lol!!!!

    they conquered Jerusalem with iron and steel.
     
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    The solution is much simpler, remove the European colonists.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No European Jews with the help of the British set up a Jewish colony. Stop with the silly references to thousands of years ago.
     
  16. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    The British Mandate for Palestine was overwhelmingly opposed by the Palestinian people and it reflects a gross violation of Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations that explicitly established that the "wishes" of the people be the primary consideration of the assigned Mandatory over the communities that were formally a part of the Turkish Empire. The provisions of Article 22 take precedent.

    We can also note that the bold portion of this statement has since been proven false based upon genetic studies of European Jews where roughly 80% of them are of Eastern European origin with no connection to the Middle East. Of course the ignorant British in the 1920's couldn't have been expected to know that they were propagating absolute BS but we know the truth today.

    We also know that the Zionists completely ignored the rights of the non-Jewish population in Palestine, often committing murder and even limited genocide, in the creation of the State of Israel that was never authorized by any British document, The creation of Israel literally violated the provisions of the British Mandate for Palestine (that the Palestinians objected to from the beginning!).
     
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    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    There is no Palestine. And there are no Palestinians to speak of. The so called Palestinians are the offspring of migrant laborers who came from all over the mideast to work at the turn of the century.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B5hKbDdkU4
     
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    Even if this long-debunked propaganda was true... Does that mean that the Israelis did not abuse "real humans" after all but some kind of untermenschen genetic accidents instead, in your psyche? That these abominations did not have any human rights... because they lacked proper paperwork?

    Come on, let's explore the depths of racial supremacism together. See what lurks in the muddy, foggy bottom. :icon_jawdrop:
     
  19. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    according to the Bible, they lose this eternal land deed if they stop following God's laws.

    - - - Updated - - -

    genetic research shows that many Palestinians may have the blood of Jewish converts to Islam
     
  20. HBendor

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    Real unadulterated braggadocio...
    There was <NO> Jewish conquest of Palestine!!!
    A conquering Jewish army does what it does when they conquer an independent state... Alas you have decided that an independent Palestine was alive and well with a government and a leader when the Jews from all over where returning home. BTW who was that leader???

    Well sorry to disappoint you this is the Land of the Jews from the time of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, Sarah, Lea, Rahel and Rivka... in addition the people of Israel did not disappear like the Maya, Inca, Pharaohs, Assyria, Mesopotamia, Babylonia and so forth, the people of Israel are alive and well in their Patrimony, every day a stone is moved it is another archaeological Jewish site that illustrates and substantiates Jewish History... so the multiple answer---> for <How much of Palestine should the Arab get back?> Should be replaced by how many Arab should be banned from Israel for being disloyal!
     
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    Not worth retorting to for this will be a waste of time and energy... thank you for the warped point of view...

    BTW from the annals of modern Jewish history today, nearly 68 years not a single Jewish rape of a Muslim woman made the limelight... Cannot say the same about Arabs raping young Jewish maiden .
     
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    The above has been injected as if it needs some colorful background...
    Deir Yassin was on the Road to Jerusalem, and while Jerusalem was surrounded by the Arab Legion, a new road was built to supply starving Jerusalem... the snipers of Deir Yassin were continuously sniping at the convoys until the underground decided to teach them a lesson... the exaggeration about the battle of Deir Yassin is exactly that an exaggeration.
     
  23. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    there were several other states in Palestine, besides the jewish ones.

    there was the Philistines, the Phoenicians, and the Kingdom of Jerusalem.

    modern-day Phoenicians are the Lebanese peoples.

    and by the way, the Jews didn't control Palestine during the time of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, or Joseph. Joshua conquered much of Palestine.
     
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    I do.... but soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo what????
     
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    Votre canard mon cher ami!!
     
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