Hunter Biden indicted on federal gun charges

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  1. Bluesguy

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    This is federal.
     
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    I think he'll back out of the 2024 race by claiming health or family problems. He's too worn out to be on the campaign trail and he can't campaign from his basement this time around, plous whenever he speaks he says stupid things. Then there are his scandals which are only heating up rather than cooling down. On top of a lot of people in liberal strongholds are pissed about the illegals. He has a record to run on and there's no way he can defend it.
     
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    Yes according to former US Attorney Andrew McCarthy brandishing the weapon forfeits any diversion agreements.
     
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    I thought you guys on the left want even stricter guns laws. He not only lied on the form, he took illegal possession of the weapon and then he brandished the weapon.

    "“Under this administration’s ‘zero tolerance’ policy, licensed firearm retailers have had their lives destroyed for paperwork mistakes far less egregious than buying a gun when you are a crack addict,” said Lawrence G. Keane, NSSF’s Senior Vice President and General Counsel. “They are not serious about reducing gun violence, only scoring cheap political points. It is worth noting this announcement came today, after President Biden’s appearance in Hartford last Friday to call for gun control.”"
    https://www.nssf.org/articles/nssf-criticizes-doj-deal-for-hunter-bidens-gun-crimes/
     
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    The charges against Hunter are not about politics, this is about serious gun control law violation for which Biden pledged ZERO tolerance. And of course the racketeer and bribery evidence that keeps mounting up involves him so we're back to can a sitting President pardon himself or others to cover up a crime in which he is involved as was discussed during Trump. What did you say back then?
     
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    Hey, what happened to the two-tiered justice system? Or, was that just more mud the RW media threw at the wall?

    In any case, I am happy, gun laws should be enforced to the fullest extent, no matter who is the perpetrator. The RW might just figure out in this process that, other than them, nobody gives a damn about Hunter Biden.
     
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    Personally, I'm not sure this is even constitutional at this point.
     
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    You don't know how we know that?


    It's a FEDERAL felony and FEDERAL charges he will go to a federal prison if in fact the policy of the Biden administration as The Big Guy has stated is zero tolerance.
     
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    In this case, a federal judge threw it out.
     
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    It was called the sweetheart deal the judge in the case busted up.

    Why don't you care about the tens of millions of dollars flowing from our worst foreign adversaries into the private bank accounts of the Biden family for not apparent recorded legitimate business purpose other than selling access and influence with The Big Guy?
     
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    The constitutionality of the laws that prohibit drug users from owning firearms can be challenged and possibly overturned.

    This has no effect on the fact he perjured himself by lying on the 4473.
     
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    You saw the two tiered justice system in action when tax crimes were allowed to expire and the DOJ colluded with Hunter's lawyers to try to bury the gun crimes.
     
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    I'm not a legal expert, I'm just confused on if the law is unconstitutional, perjury shouldn't be relevant to it. IMO.
     
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    The 4473 asks if you are a drug user. The answer to that question is yes.
    He answered no, and signed the form.
     
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    LOL... I hate to put you through this... but this clip is just TO GREAT not to share. Yes... The View loves immigrants... just not here.

     
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    Sure , but if its not constitutional then it shouldn't be relevant and people shouldn't be punished for violating unconstitutional laws or requirements.

    It would be like creating a law that requires you to sign a form that you won't say something against the government if you take government benefits. That would be unconstitutional, so would they still be punished because they signed something they needed to sign at that time to get a benefit they needed while it violates their 1st amendment right??? No.
     
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    Link the evidence, I’d like a look.
     
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    I think thats DOJ policy as opposed to law. Not to grant diversions for false gun applications when they are also guilty of brandishing a gun. But theyve defied regular DOJ policy in the Hunter investigation every step of the way.
     
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    That would involve all such gun prosecutions. Not just those involving a Biden.
     
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    I don’t see how this helps the republican cause. Saying he’s getting the same treatment as any American would is horseshit. He’s being persecuted and prosecuted because his dad’s a President that beat TRAITOR tRump like a drum.
     
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    Yeah and it sems like they have a court case where this happened somewhat recent.
     
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    Funny thing -- if you claim that you are black om a 4473, but you are actually white, you perjured yourself.
    You being black or white is completely irrelevant as there are NO race-based restrictions on buying a gun and any such restriction would violate the constitution -- but the government asked the question, and if you lie, you commit perjury.
    It's not - you have a choice here; if you choose to give up your right to criticize the government, that's on you.
     
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    Should be handled just like a contract would, and I think it's only a matter of time before this becomes true. If a court determines that the contract is illegal, it will no longer exist. Thus, it becomes void or unenforceable. Arguing that the contract is illegal can be a defense to a breach of contract should such a suit arise.
     
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    Do you believe he was dangerous or that society is better off if he is incarcerated?
     

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