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I just want to remind gun supporters of Trumps Stance on guns

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Joe knows, Dec 16, 2023.

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  1. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    https://m.youtube.com/shorts/N70evAZS548


    I believe this is worthy to remind all of the gun advocates like me of Trumps stance on guns and history of bans. Being primaries are coming up I hope my fellow gun supporters won’t support this man.
     
    Joe knows, Dec 16, 2023
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    Trump is a lukewarm supporter of the second amendment which made him a far better choice than active hardcore gun banners Clinton and Biden. and Trump's three justices have been very good on gun issues. You are right-other GOP contenders are better
     
    Turtledude, Dec 16, 2023
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    What guns have they banned and what guns has Trump banned?
     
    Joe knows, Dec 16, 2023
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    well Hillary and Joe Biden were main instigators for the Clinton gun ban which mainly caused the price of Glock and other magazines to triple in price. The judicial appointees of the Clinton Obama and Biden administrations all voted against gun rights on the Supreme court and have almost always been against gun rights on the lower courts. Trump's three Justices voted in the Majority on Bruen.

    Trump didn't ban any guns either. now the ATF redefined what a machine gun was to ban bump stocks. Do you think Hillary would have done anything differently?
     
    Turtledude, Dec 17, 2023
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    Trumps judges aren’t Trump. They also refused to hear the bump stock ban argument. You’re right they attack guns too but if we start electing gun grabbers there will be no party that supports us.
     
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    OK it's november 24 It's Biden vs Trump. who do you vote for
     
    Turtledude, Dec 17, 2023
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    Stay home
     
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    Okay time for me to remind YOU that the 1996 national Firearms reform (gun ban) in Australia was brought in by one of the most conservative prime ministers ever elected to office. Party affiliation can mean nothing. We also know that Trimp is so far up Putin and Di’s and Kim Jong’s collective arses that all it would take is a bribe from one or more of those and America will see a gun ban the “likes of which nobody has ever seen before”
     
    Bowerbird, Dec 17, 2023
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    Good point. Lefties see everything in black or white. Those of us on the pro-gun side understand the issue as an issue of analog scale; no absolute answer.
     
    Bullseye, Dec 17, 2023
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    a claim without evidence. Putin didn't launch an attack until senile Joe was in the white house
     
    Turtledude, Dec 17, 2023
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    that's what the democrats are counting on. I'll be happy for 3 more justices like Kavanaugh or Barrett over three more quota picks whose main reason for being selected is being female and or black
     
    Turtledude, Dec 17, 2023
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    I suspect the definitions of "conservative" in AUS and USA are a tad different.
     
    Bullseye, Dec 17, 2023
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    and for us in the USA, we don't give a damn about Australian politicians. They don't have a bill of rights and are subjects not citizens.
     
    Turtledude, Dec 17, 2023
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    Personally, I find it a bit odd that you wouldn’t just sit this one out and let it be because people like you make me think about voting for Trump as much as I don’t want to.

    under Trump Russia stopped attacking Ukraine and under Trump NK quit testing nukes. How is that a bad thing?
     
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    If Trump is elected...I am certain banning guns will not be on his agenda. Banning guns will not be where his energy goes. And he will have energy.
     
    CKW, Dec 18, 2023
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    you do wonder why a person who claims to be a foreigner is so invested in attacking a politician in a country that person doesn't live in, nor votes in.
     
    Turtledude, Dec 18, 2023
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    we can pretty much guarantee that a biden win will mean judges picked who are anti gun. Trump not so much
     
    Turtledude, Dec 18, 2023
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    Trump picks constitutional judges. Biden picks liberal activists.
     
    CKW, Dec 18, 2023
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    Will Biden make it to the election?
     
    An Taibhse, Dec 19, 2023
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    well if dead people can vote for dems, then the brains dead can still run no matter what condition
     
    Turtledude, Dec 19, 2023
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    I'm supporting Trump and only Trump in the primary (and the general). He's the only candidate who doesn't belong to the Uniparty Deep State.
     
    gfm7175, Dec 19, 2023
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    Agreed on Trump being lukewarm on guns (and being far better than the gun grabbers), but disagreed on there being any better candidates. The rest of 'em (outside of maybe Vivek? but I don't trust him either) are all corrupt elitist Uniparty swampers.
     
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    There's ALREADY no party that supports us (outside of the America First MAGA movement).
     
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    Trump.
     
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    My guess is no. I think Newsom replaces him. That'll upset the DIE crowd though who will get pissy about a black woman (Heels Up Harris) being skipped over because nobody else likes her......
     
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