I just want to remind gun supporters of Trumps Stance on guns

Tell the class the decibel level of suppressed and unsuppressed 9mm then. Anyone saying a suppressed firearm doesn't sound like a gun has never shot a suppressed firearm.
Recall: We all know you've never shot suppressed, you thought they would be whisper quiet. Stop pretending to knowledge you don't have.

Further: Let's assume they become whisper quiet, hollywood style. They're still bearable arms, see Bruen for the rule there. If you want the ban, apply the rule and show how your asinine, uninformed desire passes the test.
The idea that them being quiet makes them able to be banned reflects a complete lack of understanding of the caselaw.

Trump offering gun control makes him a grabber. Trump pulling gun control out of his ass, and giving the executive branch the capacity to do more later, makes him a grabber.

Bumpstocks are, by definition, not machineguns. Rate of fire isn't the rule, its whether or not a thing shoots more than one bullet per trigger activation. Literally, the law did not reach them because the law didn't include moving your finger real ****in fast. CRANKS are literally still allowed ffs. Your invention violates the rule of law argument is specious, and reflects a complete lack of understanding of the statute itself.
Changing that law? Requires a statutory amendment, not executive fiat. Rule of lenity applies in that you're making felons where they didn't previously exist.

"Out of focus" is not a logical objection. Please try to make some sense.
As with my law license, my citizenship status and place of birth do not depend upon your belief.
Demands strict application of the protections offered by the Constitution, gets accused of not supporting or caring about the Constitution.......

 

That claim is a tad hyperbolic, though a purpose built, integrally suppressed, very shortened range as a tradeoff, bolt action so its not venting gas other than through the integrally suppressed barrel, pushing a subsonic cartridge, is the only thing that can even try to be "silent".
"Subsequent official firing tests recorded the De Lisle produced 85.5 dB of noise when fired.[6] As a comparison, modern testing on a selection of handguns has shown that they produce 156 to 168 dB when firing without a suppressor, and 117 to 140 dB when firing with one fitted.[7] "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Li...ng tests recorded,when firing with one fitted.


What else is 85.5 decibels? And what else is 112-115 decibels loud Turtle?
Perhaps there might be (several) useful charts just LYING AROUND you might produce for the class?
https://audiology-web.s3.amazonaws....oster- 8.5x11.pdf_5399b289427535.32730330.pdf

 

I was merely pointing out the obvious.

 

Do you find car horns to be particularly quiet?
Do you find rock concerts to be particularly quiet?

 

I find suppressed weapons much easier on the ears than ones that are not-especially outdoors.

 

Do you find a car horn to be particularly quiet?
What about a rock concert? Is that hollywood silent such that Injuen's "ifn its quiet it ain't protected" .... "idea" would even apply to be examined in the real world?

 

do you have a point-we get the fact you don't like Trump and won't vote for him-even if the only other choice is Biden. I don't have any use for such antics and as most people have noted, Trump is not bent on banning guns as is Biden, and more importantly Trump's judicial picks are far better for gun owners than the quota queens Biden and Obama have picked

 

Do you not remember the Socratic method from law school?

Do you find a car horn to be particularly quiet?

When you're crying about how its the end of days when your sucks diseased moose wang candidate (predictably) loses (again) to a senile old pedophile, I'll remind you that you didn't have any use for the alternatives that could've prevented that happening.

 

I find a car horn quieter than a 556 unsuppressed round. I don't want Trump to be the nominee but I will have to vote for him if he's running against Biden or Harris or Graven Nuisance etc

 

So you would have no issue if I sat outside your home in your driveway and laid on my car horn? You don't think that would cause the entire street to turn out in annoyance? You don't think I'd get a noise complaint?
Is it your supposition that a person cannot hear a rock concert or a car horn within shooting distance (say 300m)?
I don't know why you flail about fighting the hook so. You SHOULD know how cross/impeachment style rhetoric works: If you simply answer the question, even if the answer is bad for you, I've gotten my answer and move on. The more you fight it, the more excruciating detail we go into to illustrate the issue.

Except he can't beat any of those, so if that's the candidate your party picks you're going to need to vote for someone who CAN.
FFS: He couldn't beat a senile old pedophile caught with his hand in the cookie jar whose son was on tape smoking crack and ****ing hookers and who dumped a gun in a school zone. Who won't recognize his own granddaughter.
So: Go touch the stove, but don't come whining when you burn yourself that I didn't warn you it was hot.

 

you vote for someone who has no chance of winning, has no chance of appointing pro gun judges and then tell everyone you are helping the pro gun movement. I will vote for the best of the two realistic choices knowing that there are no perfect candidates

 

He couldn't beat a senile old pedophile caught with his hand in the cookie jar whose son was on tape smoking crack and ****ing hookers and who dumped a gun in a school zone. Who won't recognize his own granddaughter.
So: Go touch the stove, but don't come whining when you burn yourself that I didn't warn you it was hot.

 

well he won't win if people like you vote for third party nobodies

 

He couldn't beat a senile old pedophile caught with his hand in the cookie jar whose son was on tape smoking crack and ****ing hookers (who might be underaged), exposed himself to his niece, married his brothers wife then cheated on her publicly, illegally obtained a firearm then dumped it in a schoolzone, who probably self dealt, and won't recognize his own granddaughter.

Trump's rep and PR have only gotten worse since the 2020 election.

As with the child in the proverb: You're not going to listen, so go ahead and burn yourself so we can get to the next part of the lesson.
Just remember when you're whining later: I warned you it was hot and that exactly what you cry about was going to happen if you touched the stove.

 

well if you vote for a third party candidate you are helping Biden

 

well if you don't vote for a candidate who hasn't already lost to a senile old pedophile caught with his hand in the cookie jar whose son was on tape smoking crack and ****ing hookers (who might be underaged), exposed himself to his niece, married his brothers wife then cheated on her publicly, illegally obtained a firearm then dumped it in a schoolzone, who probably self dealt, and won't recognize his own granddaughter, you are helping Biden.

 

you only have two realistic choices

tell us-are gun owners better off having Trump and the federalist Society pick judges for the next four years or Soros and the woke left pick them

 

No, I have many realistic choices and so do you. You refuse to choose amongst any but 2, and that is your choice. Your choice which leads to predictable consequences.

Kavanaugh has been more trouble than he's worth, and he's softer than Roberts on the 2a. Barrett has her issues as well.
Tell me: If we could've had those picks or better, without the baggage, would that be a win or not?

 

If I could run the country it would be far better.

 

If you would vote for someone other than Trump or Biden, my dog for instance, the country would be run far better.

You refuse to. And you denigrate anyone who would do otherwise. It would be hilarious if y'all weren't operating the proverbial trolley and I wasn't paradoxically tied to both tracks you prefer to use though there are numerous other options to choose.

 

I deal with reality. one of two people is going to be picking supreme court justices in 2025-2029. One will be picking justices recommended by the federalist society. the other would pick justices who meet racial quotas and hate gun owners' rights

your choice

 

And again: Its not going to be Trump winning. So you voting for Trump is just a vote for Biden.
He couldn't beat the pedo+ (please see above, because I don't feel like typing the screed again) prior to ******** the bed with classified docs or most recently arguing the president could have his rival assassinated and not face charges for it, catching the civil judgment ratifying he sexually assaulted someone (by calling her a liar when she said it occurred), or feuding with his special needs kid because the kid grew up taller than the fragile little ****er.
He damn sure can't do it now.
So when you hold your nose and pull the lever for him, you're just voting for Biden. Per your own opinion.

So vote for someone who has a chance of winning instead. Or don't, and complain about it bitterly while we all mock you.

 

Trump has a far better chance of winning than any third party candidate

 

No, he really doesn't.
He had no chance in the 2020 election, he's got an even worse chance this time around.

Fear not: I'll be here to tell you I told you so after he crashes and burns and you kvetch about it for years.

 

If it hadn't been for the chinese virus, I believe Trump would have won