I think I was date-raped last weekend, what should I do?

I feel bad for anybody who's sexual experiences are ones that would not allow them to be able to tell the difference of if their partner is awake or asleep.

But regardless of what he thought he was doing, the law makes no distinction based on that fact. If the 'victim' in this hypothetical story became unconscious at any point of the act, it needed to end because that party no longer was capable of consenting by legal definition. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, no distinction is made for this regard, and even if your significant other decided to wake you up with a blowjob, that could be considered rape as well.

 

the Male was trolling through Roleplay as a woman. The scenario described was from the perspective of a female. The case the OP was trying to make was an Anti-rape one. In this case, the scenario cannot be argued based on the gender of the OP.

 

Rapists are predominately, almost ALWAYS male. Males rape women. Males rape children, old women, rape boys, rape other men.

Very very very uncommon to find a woman rapist.

The OP is calling for EQUALITY. Wouldn't that equality have to stretch to women being rapists just as much as men? Yet Rape is the domain of the male. How is that EQUAL when so many women are raped by men? So many. Equality? What a stupid analogy.

I find this thread appaling. Insulting. Not to mention, entirely 'manufactured' to serve the OP's agenda.

 

Saying that because the demographics of rapists are skewed towards male, that the system should be weighted against them is like saying because the demographic of muggers is predominately black, we should weight the system against them. Guess what, in both cases, that's the fact... and in both cases, that's wrong to do.

I agree that the thread is manufactured to serve the OP's Agenda. And I pointed out earlier that there are clear guidelines for consent.

 

that's the problem with date rape.... girls, too, get horny as hell while drunk, have consentual sex, then claim daterape when the bloke she went home with gives her an STD, or is a lot more creepy sober, than he was while she was drunk. You are confusing "forced" RAPE (like in your story where the bf forced himself -your words - on his girlfriend who didn't want to have sex without a condom) and "consentual-during-the-time-sex-but-changes-her-mind-after-the-fact-and-uses-the-alcohol-she-drank-on-her-own-accord-as-her-claim-that-she-was-date-raped" RAPE

Girls don't have to say they feel violated in order to claim date-rape.... why should I have to because I'm a male.

I am not trolling (unless you define trolling as anything not politically correct being discussed) I made a simple analogy by telling a true story where (most) assumed I was female and they all claimed "DATE RAPE". You pointing out I'm a male has no bearing on that story and is quite sexist of you to think that only females can be raped. But I don't expect any less out of femi-nazis man haters. So for you and others like you, I'm simply exposing you for the hypocrits you are on the subject.

 

Post links. Back up your claims. What is the prevelance of this happening? Show us statistics. Let's see some FACTS at least once from you.

Earlier you said women lied they were date-raped because they didn't want to be seen as a 'sluts and whores'. (Nice misogyny right there) And now because she got an STD or cos the guy was creepy... good grief, you make this stuff up as you go along.

I want to see links. I'm bored with your self-serving drivel. Where are your sources? Where is your research?

What exactly do you have to back up your claims? Just your word for it? Try harder. Because your opinion doesn't make it so... no matter how much you try at so much 'fabrication'.

 

You cannot make the analogy between muggers and rapists because rapists ARE male. Muggers are both white and black.

The incidence of a woman rapist is RARE. It may happen but it is RARE. A mugger being white is not rare. No way.

How many men are date-raped? That's what the OP claimed, that he was date-raped. Where are the statistics? We know with women that the reporting of rape is horrendously underreported. So that would be the same for males being raped by women, right? Where are these stats for men that are raped by women? I want to see them.

That was the premise of this thread. That the OP, a male, was date-raped by a woman. Except the OP was being disingenuous - what he was really inferring is that he WASN'T date-raped -- and that therefore, because he (emphasis on 'he') wasn't date-raped, women aren't date-raped either. Yes -- because he has female anatomy and he knows what sexual 'violation' is...

 

http://www.aboutdaterape.nsw.gov.au/whatis/who_commits.html

 

we aren't disputing those numbers, Man-hater.... The same kind of stats can be produced saying that black men commit the most types of armed robbery out there, too. Doesn't mean we ignore when a white guy commits an armed robbery simply because the MAJORITY of perps are black.

 

you are probabaly the most sexist person on this forum is you truley believe that women can't rape me. Even your stats say 96% of reported rapes are women. Fine... who were the 4% remaining? (I'll give you a hint....NOT female)



and what do you want links for, that women get horny while drunk? lol.... you just refuse to pull your head out of the sand is all that is if you don't think people like to get drunk and screw.... both genders....

 

it's not politically correct to study those numbers.... but why is it important.....


simple question that you seem to avoid.... CAN A MAN BE DATE-RAPED? Yes or no.....

 

why a girl claims date rape varies... no one answer. Why you are trying to lock me down to just ONE reason when ALL REASONS I posted are valid reasons for a girl to claim date rape, including being drugged by a guy for the purposes of sex

 

You make my point. It does not matter the rarity of the demographic of the crime, it can be done by both sexists, so the law must be fair. Stop being sexist for a second to realize that simple fact.

 

^^

Yeah, that’s right. A group of men gather at the Women’s Rights Section to bash women.

But post anything about the right of women not to be bashed and raped and murdered… and these sexist drongos disappear. Not a peep out of them.

Ironic that being a feminist that stands up to sexist males makes me a man-hater in their eyes. Par for the course, and big whoop, I guess.

The sexist males congregate at the Women’s Rights section to bash women -- but post anything about a woman’s sacred right not to be bashed and raped and murdered… and you won’t hear a pin drop from these drongos.

 

Funny how you refer to the men here (me included) as sexist, when I'm the one proclaiming that the law be fair in it's application, and just in it's prosecution... While you, it seems, consider the Liberty of one group (Women's right to not be assaulted) to be greater than the Liberty of another group (Men who can be persecuted on just a word). I argue that neither of these situations are acceptable, but you argue that It's ok to dump on men, if it serves to protect women. That's about as close to a dictionary definition of sexism as you can get. Which makes you as bad as the OP who argues the polar-opposite side of that.

 

You have it nailed exept for me being sexist..... i used my story as an example of the double standard. And pointing out, just like you, that double standards against women = bad, but double standard against men = ok so long as it helps women.

Also for the record, i dont consider myself dateraped that night.... i chose to get drunk, i was horny and i started drunk texting girls not at the bonfire and this lady responded first. I wanted to get laid....period and i was drunk enough to not care thati wasnt really interested in this girl.

There are plenty of women who do this too. They drink, and want to have sex. Yet somehow.... if sober me has sex with a drunk girl its rape if she has the same level of regret i had the next morning

 

Haven't been over on the abortion forum and seen the endless posts about "she should have kept her legs together" have you?

 

not yet.... lol


different issue altogether.... so I won't digress into it here.


my point I'm trying to show is how convenient feminism thinks date-rape is contingent on gender of the 'victim'

 

I imagine you could prosecute if you wanted, if you were truly unable to consent and resist, and she was reasonably aware of your inability to do so. The "double standard" that I see here is that the man generally would not care, they would not wake up feeling violated, no "harm" per-say was done. But you might feel differently if you passed out and got anally raped or something of the nature.

 

See....why does inability toconsent or resist matter? It doesnt matter if a girl claims daterape after a self induced drunken night even when consentual sex is had.

 

Same reason it matters for the mentally handicapped.

 

Drunk girl /=retarded

 

Perhaps men should subscribe to the psychic hotline so they can verify before they open up that Trojan.
For all women who may be offended by what they may seem a irreverent attitude concerning rape - consider the following

Rape concerning a woman is a taboo and we all gasp in horror.
Rape concerning a man is either a joke, or a threat by law enforcement officials.
Accusations of Rape, Domestic Violence and Child Abuse often inspire a 'witch-hunt' mentality that has less to do with justice than it does furthering a D.A.s career.

Yes rape happens way too often and is not excusable.
Yes, false allegations of rape and abuse happen way too often and is not excusable.

 

The capacity to consent == the capacity to consent

 

The ability to give informed consent depends on the degree of drunkedness, of course. Law states "incapacitated", or something similar, not drunk. Even with mental retardation the same is true, people with less severe conditions can legally consent. This is not a black and white issue.