If Machine Guns are illegal

Oh get real. Seriously? Holy smokes. I have seen some absurdity on this forum but this.. Haha

1. When you quote me and say this : You said 'all of it' That means all violence all over the world.

No. No. No. Why do leftists feel they have this insane privilege of reading or hearing something then... Changing it to mean what they want it to mean? Don't tell me your impression of what you think something I state means! To deflect. Wtf is that?

I mean anyone can see you did that.

I don't give a CRAP what your asking for. THE OP itself has sourced as part of its assertion a source utilizing cherry picked UK gun / crime statistics.

I debunked it with mine. Thoroughly. Completely. My counter is factual. And supported. Violence is cultural. Mass Murders is cultural.

 

I do not own guns and I am not for banning anything that will keep the tyrannical forces at bay. It is bad enough that tyranny under the guise of religion has taken this country by storm. None of this insanity was what was envisioned by the founders of this country but the fruit loops have ceased the Republic and it is DIRE DISTRESS! NOT ONE MORE THING SHOULD TO BE EXCHANGED FOR SECURITY!

Also, out of all of the "gun control" laws that have been passed since the first multiple murders incident, how many lives have been saved due to said gun laws?

 

If Machine Guns are illegal

Then less people will be killed by machine guns...fact.

 

The people who want to kill people seem to have found alternatives. Go figure.

 

Yeah...they always do. Thing is they can't kill as many as easily before getting an ass kicking.

 

Uh OH!!!!!

link: https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-truth-about-mass-shootings-and-gun-control/

Like I say, "You have to hit them where it hurts; reality sucks when you live in T.V. Land as a test-tube-baby.

 

I don't know, have we banned bombs yet? Trucks?

 

Do you blame the entire banking industry because some guy commits bank fraud?
Do you blame all car owners because someone steals a car and commits a crime with it?

Your argument is foolish.

 

I see....so you are one of those folks who feel the need to ignore the result of letting civilians have military weapons by saying we don't let them have ALL of them? Neat....

 

First, I don't have to show a "need". Do you have to show a "need" for a car that goes more than 65 mph?

Second, the purpose of private firearm ownership is not hunting or home defense, its to protect the people from the government. That's the reason stated explicitly by the founders of the nation.

Third, magazine size is irrelevant in terms of crime. Not only are rifles a trivial tool in crime, when they are used the magazine size is not a factor. At Sandy Hook, the shooter reloaded frequently, often discarding magazines more than half full. At Virginia Tech, the shooter used multiple handguns, reloading one while having the other ready - are you next going to argue that nobody needs multiple firearms?

The only case where the shooter was taken down while reloading was the Giffords shooter - and he fumbled his handgun while trying to reload a non-standard large capacity (30 round) magazine.

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Here is a question for you.

Why do you focus on the tool and not the person? Why do you worry about the tool used in the final act of a years-long sequence of events? Years of opportunities to break the chain of events that ended with murder, and you ignore those opportunities to focus on a sensational and pointless "solution".

 

No, just trying to figure out what we need to ban next.

 

It's funny.

I've duck hunted for 40 years. We were never allowed to take a shotgun into the field that could carry more than three
rounds at a time to prevent wounding ducks with indiscriminate fire, and were never allowed to use anything but a shotgun because of the danger other types of guns presented
to other people in the area.

So basically, we protect ducks and hunters better than we do children.

 

And yet it is ILLEGAL in most states to hunt deer with a gun with more than a five round magazine.
We protect deer in the field from indiscriminate fire more than we do our own children.
That was not a question, by the way. It was a statement of fact.

 

Such restrictions pertain to the conservation of the waterfowl species. Such is why there are limits on the number that can be taken in a season.

What is ultimately missed by yourself, is the fact that the harvesting of wildlife is legal, but is regulated. The killing of children, however, is illegal under all circumstances. Therefore, children are better protected than wildlife.

 

That is why the magazine is detachable. So that a five round magazine can be installed for the purpose of hunting game animals.

 

The process of buying a full auto weapon online is the same as it is with buying a single shot shotgun online except you have to go to a gun shop who has a class 3 FFL.

They're out their they just don't advertise it.

If you wast to purchase a full auto firearm "Shotgun News" is the place to go. You'll see them on most news racks. Holey saltpeter, I just noticed they changed their name to "Firearms News." -> http://www.firearmsnews.com/

Most gun dealers do business with "Gun Broker" that has a class 3 FFL on transferring firearms.

Another source for full auto firearms is -> https://machineguncentral.com/

I personally know a few who legally own sub machine guns and know just as many who illegally own sub machine guns and I'm sure there are smart people who don't advertise that they own a full auto firearm.

Legal full auto firearms aren't cheap as you probably noticed. There's the black market where you can buy any firearm on the streets for about 1/2 of the price than they are being sold in a gun store.

That's why I just can't figure out liberals brain housing group. Ban AR's like the AR-15 and the international gun smugglers will flood America's streets with AR's, more likely AK's and FN's and they will be more affordable going for 1/2 of the price just as hand guns on the black market go for today.

Banning AR's is the beginning of the "slippery slope." Even Rep. Nancy Pelosi has said so. After banning AR's the anti gun left will target another class of firearms to ban. The agenda of the anti gun left is banning all privately owned guns in America.

 

5 round limit for hunting deer.
100 round limit for hunting children.

Makes perfect sense in a ****ed up world.

 

Emotional rhetoric and hyperbole. Magazines capable of holding one hundred rounds of ammunition are appropriate for the use of exterminating nuisance species, such as feral hogs and various vermin that pose a risk to livestock. Nuisance species that can be legally culled to the point of extinction, with no limits on how many may be taken, or the time of year in which they are taken.

 

You presented no link. I did not read your opinions - I told you, I am only interested in unbiased facts/data.

Your original point is thus TOTALLY unsubstantiated.


We are done here.

Good day.

 

You never got started. No one cares what your opinion thinks. It's not exactly known for credibility, maybe a little on economic stuff. That's it. All you did here was deflect. You want a thread on world culture you make it.

If anyone reading this thread can read it and state that I did not prove the OP false then say so and why.

I debunked his original source. I countered his second opinion and source.

No one ever countered mine.

 

Silly , I like millions of other Americans are good guys with guns . Law abiding constitution loving Americans. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED . Is non negotiable , sorry but you didn't write the Constitution, you don't get to change it because you disagree.

 

I GUARANTEE that if that Maniac in Las Vegas had a semi automatic handgun instead of an AR-15 with a Bump stocks, the death toll would have been way less then the 58 killed and 851 injured at that concert venue. It amazes me how Gun Nutz focus on the right to Bear Arms, that's like saying HEY! a Bazooka and a Rocket Launcher are Arms, it's my Constitutional right to have them even though I'm a Mentally instable maniac and I want the most effective weapon system available to me to cause MASS MURDER.

 

Can I keep my Ranch Rifle?

 

The 2nd Amendment is SO! back ass backwards it's stupid. At the time it was written, they had no idea of the firepower one individual could possess with an AR15 compared to a musket and also had no idea of something called mental illness in which an individual is not defending his property or against a Tyrannical government, but for the sheer joy of killing innocent people.

 

And there was no internet when the first amendment was written. ??