Impeachment complicates Biden's efforts to unify

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  1. Sanskrit

    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    Your post was a non sequitur, that's all the explanation you are due, and that's all that will be provided.
     
  2. AmericanNationalist

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    It's not "too complicated". It's actually very simplistic. Europe was complaining due to not getting their monies. Guess who brought it up? Barack Obama and FMR. Defense secretary Gates. This is not sustainable, and there are MILLIONS of us who feel this way.

    We're not obligated to the European Union, or to the UN or to god knows who else(like Nepal and Pakistan.) If you wanna ball with the US, you better give us a reason to have a financial relationship with you. If the money is going absolutely nowhere(and it's not), then it's a waste of money.

    Let's tie it to something that might get you interested: Free college? I think if we stopped sending literally billions, hundreds of billions to trillions every year(with interest) to those countries, you could actually afford it. So yes, it's "1 % of the budget", but it's 1% that is being absolutely COMPLETELY wasted.

    There's no reason why the American citizen should be prioritized any less than a foreign country. Of that 1%, 0% of it ideally should be spent abroad. ZERO.

    I have no Ruskie ties, I'm not a foreigner. I'm a diehard American so it'll be much harder to get rid of me saying the message: This is the US Congress. The United States of America Congress, your FIRST AND FOREMOST OBLIGATION IS TO THE US CITIZENS.

    Then you care about the rest of the world, after that.
     
  3. Andrew Jackson

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    An interesting concession of defeat.

    Anyway, back to the Opinion in the OP.

    I have nothing against Maeve Reston, and I have agreed with several of her opinions in the past.

    But if she is implying that the Impeachment Trial shouldn't proceed, then I would disagree.
     
  4. AmericanNationalist

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    Yes, very much so. So despite "having no idea what argument I'm making", you know exactly what I'm saying. You also know it to be true. You're just uncomfortable with it.(As are most.) but you can't let these politicians continue to rob the bank, while telling you if only they tax you(and us) MORE we'll get a hereto nonexistent result.

    The difference from the 1800's-1900's and 1960-present is NIGHT AND DAY. In our development years, our fore framers and the early part of a century, those political leaders actually gave a **** about the country. That's why you had the Monroe Doctrine, the Louisiana Purchase and even the Alaska purchase, etc.

    Now? They can barely lift a finger to pay a little over a thousand due to the economic calamity THEY created. The circumstances and situations that led to the rise of Trump have only not disappeared, they've gotten worse.

    So what do we do? We vote. And not for a Democrat or a Republican. For Greens, for Indies and yes for Nationalists. Vote for people who aren't beholden to special interests, but are instead beholden to US, we the people.
     
  5. Andrew Jackson

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    "The United States of America Congress, your FIRST AND FOREMOST OBLIGATION IS TO THE US CITIZENS"

    ^Agreed.

    Which is (precisely) WHY the Congress and Senate should Act on this Impeachment and Hold the Trial.
    (Of a Former President who Incited a Deadly Act of Domestic Terrorism).

    The rest of your post is WAY off-topic (in a thread about Maeve Reston's Opinion of "Unify"), and would be better suited for a separate thread.
     
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    No it wasn't at all. I asked three questions referring to your "Show Trial" post. There weren't any false conclusions drawn....they were questions. So you avoided the questions by claiming something that's not true. Try harder.
     
  7. Sanskrit

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    You posted a non sequitur, or false comparison. Try harder.
     
  8. 9royhobbs

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    Oh.......................right??!!
     
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    You can say that all you want but it still won't be true.
     
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    The first one took a while by design.
     
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    Tens of millions didn't vote at all
     
  12. Andrew Jackson

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    True, 9roy.

    Apparently, certain people still don't understand that repeating misguided statements (over and over) does not make them "true".

    Still, there is one thing that seems obvious:

    The Term "non-sequiter" is (apparently) the Hooked on Phonics Compound Word of the Day.
     
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    Good point, and point taken.

    IF everyone had voted, Biden's Popular Vote would have easily topped 200+ Million.
     
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    Chucky want's to charge him for his erection.
     
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    Impeachment complicates Biden's efforts to unify

    Partisanship complicates Biden's efforts to unify. He will deepen the divide.
     
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    There is 'accountability' needed on both sides in many different ways. This impeachment is more related to political power and preventing the growth of a new movement. It has nothing to do with accountability.
     
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    Yes. I am pretty sure they are representing special interests, not you and me! Let me know when I get to have true representation!
     
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    Going ahead with the impeachment trial or just forgetting it, not having it isn't about to effect or bring about unity or make it more difficult. The decks are stacked, the divide too wide. No one man can bring it about. No political party can bring this nation together without help and want from the other. Our modern era of politics with its polarization, divisiveness and mega, ultra high partisanship will not let that happen. There is no hope for unity or healing, however one wants to put it until both major parties stop using the divide and conquer strategy in their search for votes. As long as both major parties see it as a campaign political advantage of pitting one group of voters against another in an effort to get these voters to hate the other guy more than they hate you.

    No unity as long was we fill our campaigns with negative personal attacks, trying to paint your political opponent as the worst scumbag on the face of the earth. As long as both major parties think the other is this nation's number one enemy, more of an enemy than Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, terrorist etc. and dead set on destroying America. This type of portrayal has been going on for 20-30 years or more. People have heard this type of rhetoric so much, they believe it.

    Who's to blame, the present and past leaders of both major parties. They could choose to have elections about substance, about fresh ideas, about visions of the future. But both would rather paint the other party and their candidates as out to destroy this nation and cause the death of every living being in this country.

    We're where we are at mainly because of both major parties leadership and their zest to win elections no matter what it takes. Even if it means pitting American against American and perhaps the destruction of this country. Unity is impossible under these circumstances.
     
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    Yeah. And?
     
  20. Pollycy

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    You are quite right!

    Biden has already begun with the concept that his administration is going to be a super-'progressive' "Obama 2.0". And what's so really sad about that is that Obama was the one who divided America citizens more than anyone else had since the Vietnam War -- decades ago. I know. I lived through all of it....
     
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    [​IMG]. "MY voodoo can break any tie in the Senate!" :furious:
     

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