Is herd immunity ahead of schedule?

This article is current and well researched. Some will find it informative.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/09/joseph-mercola/herd-immunity-ahead-of-schedule/

Some might say their software will not allow them to view such articles, and this sort of analysis will not be found in mainstream media for all the obvious reasons.

In certain locales in this country and elsewhere, by many measures herd immunity threshold appears to have been reached.

 

It's not mainstream, but there certainly are scientists who think that herd immunity is in the 10-20% range versus the 60-70% previously considered.

We'll find out this fall with students returning to school coupled with weather changes and flu season.

This site is tracking herd immunity by state. If herd immunity is indeed lower than first thought, then states which enforced less severe lockdowns are ahead of the game.



https://coronavirusbellcurve.com/

 

Herd immunity doesn't fit the democrats narrative just as an early vaccine doesn't. They need and want as much death as possible.

 

It certainly does appear that way.

 

"recent studies are showing that the HIT may actually be as low as 10-20% instead of 60-70%."

Please note the "may".

What you are looking at is a study that suggests HIT is lower than 60-70%. We will need more work to get close to the actual level of immunity.

However, if you are setting policy, with thousands of lives at stake, you are going to be cautious, and wait for better numbers to show up before jumping off that bridge.

 

And if you're in on the scamdemic, and stand to make $ by supporting the official narrative, you're going to support the official narrative, warts and all. You're going to ignore Sweden's success and call them dirty names.

Herd immunity is inevitable, as shown over thousands of years. Though proper vaccines can accelerate the process in theory, it happens to some degree or another without any actions by "health officials."

 

If I'm setting policies, I'm going to try to ensure that there is hospital capacity available in my state. As long as there is capacity, I'm going open as much of the economy as possible and only use restrictive measures where needed locally.

 

By now we do know that this virus has proven to be rather vicious at attacking people with pre-existing health conditions. With that knowledge, people know whether they are at high risk or low risk, and should act accordlingly. The lockdowns of entire populations to protect the weak have certainly turned into pure politics.

 

Thank you doctor death.

 

What is adjusted IFR?

 

Throw the weak under the bus. What else is new with GOP antisocial policies?

Newsflash: You may be weak too at one point, as you age.
Newsflash 2: The strong take the virus to the weak.

 

Trump has been playing politics with this since the beginning.

That has made this 5 to 10 times WORSE than it had to be.

 

Weren't you the one who said he was an internal pollster for Trump?
Forgive me if I have my doubts about the veracity of your opinion.

Let science run it's course - this is a relatively new virus, and making predictions about herd immunity levels and mutations is very. premature -
we all remember Trump's prediction that it would die out with the summer heat ...

 

You're welcome, Warden LockEmAllDown. lol

 

ONLY by choice, if people are not adequately cautious given their personal circumstances. The strong can protect the weak.

 

That was a hope not a prediction.

 

He was forced to "play" politics after putting together the task force team and making recommendations to the states for guidelines based on science. Aside from that, state governors have always been and are still in charge of decisions for the health of each state's citizens. Any politicking back and forth between governors and the White House has mainly been coming from blue state governors, most of whom were exceedingly grateful to the federal government and to Trump for their responsiveness and assistance.

 

Where are you getting so much fiction??

At the very beginning of this the gal that was the head of the pandemic team gave a speech saying trouble was coming, and then found herself in a new job and her team disbanded.

The Trump crowd has been stumblingly around blind since.

The countries that successfully suppressed the disease all did it with strong, national programs.

So, Cuomo was "exceedingly grateful". He was screaming blue bloody murder. The others were afraid Trump would screw them as badly as he did to NY.

That was excessively ridiculous, pure fiction. Please do better.

 

Cuomo: The governor who can't manage a budget, much less manage his state, so he needed federal welfare. Hey, at least he started out in a non-partisan spirit.

 

Here is a link to one of the original pre-prints (note: Not peer reviewed):

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.27.20081893v3.full.pdf

To cite: "Measures of individual variation are urgently needed to narrow the estimated ranges of HITs and plan accordingly."

In other words, the coefficient of variation (CV) in R0 is not known, and the estimates of low herd immunity thresholds (HIT) are based on models using a CV that is probably too high.

Note that the modeling is also based on the assumption that Stockholm county in Sweden has reached herd immunity. However, there is no indication that this is the case, or whether the reduction in death rates from the peak are rather caused by a reduction in R0, due to the change in people's behavior.

I would urge anyone to read the original articles instead of listening to the RW spin of them.

 

Cuomo bent the curve nicely.

Trump did not, you are projecting, it's Trump that has f all for management skill..

And calling emergency funding welfare is blatantly false sleaze.

 

Here is a group of people protecting me by wearing masks.

 

Trump is not responsible for the overall curve. Governors are responsible for the health of their citizens. Some governors followed the CDC advise. Some went overboard. Some ignored it. The outcome of 50 governors' actions make up the U.S. curve. No one person is responsible for that.

 

That is absurd.

Every nation that has been successful has done so using a strong national policy.

That's one of the lamer excuses to come out of this lame ass presidency. The day Trump became president he had strong pandemic infrastructure. He screwed that over, which screwed the country 180,000 ways to Sunday...

 

I seriously doubt that you or I will get Covid from anyone in that photo, or at least I won't. Do you live or work with any of them? If not, then they have zero to do with your chances of infection.