Is Nebraska really considering giving immunity to anyone who kills doctors. . .

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  1. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is Nebraska really considering giving immunity to anyone who would kill doctors in order to prevent an abortion, no matter what the reason for the abortion?

    The bill that is before the Nebraska state legislation is Bill #LB232, It was introduced by State Senator Mark Christensen, who is a devout abortion foe even in the case of rape. He introduced this bill in hope of protecting the vigilantes that kill abortion Doctors

    Here is the bill.

    http://nebraskalegislature.gov/Floor...F/SI/LB232.pdf

    http://nebraskalegislature.gov/Floor...ntro/LB232.pdf

    Now, these people pretend to be "pro-life?"

    How crazy will the hyper religious right get?

    Hopefully, this bill has no chance to pass. . .but just the fact that a legislator is crazy enough to call himself "pro-life" and encourage the killing of a group of person for performing safe abortions that are absolutely legal under the law is mind boggling!

    What say you?
     
  2. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you know the current status of the bill? There's more about it here:
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/nebraska-justifiable-homicide-abortion-bill

    Who says there is no war against women?
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    DorkdoltConservative New Member

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    It's a step in the right direction.
     
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    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    You find vigilantism is a "step in the right direction"? Why?
     
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    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    That is really quite (*)(*)(*)(*)ing scary. Thank God, I live in Australia. Or to lifers, hail Satan.
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    I never knew that cutting up an innocent baby in a partial birth abortion in the name of profit was "safe" for the baby.


    The Holocaust was legal under Nazi German law - who cares what's "legal", that has nothing to do with what's moral.
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    Right, there's a huge war against the innocent unborn women murdered by greedy abortion doctors - like in China for example, in big urban areas the govt only allows families to have 1 child and male children are considered more valuable in Chinese culture, so innocent unborn women are very frequently murdered over there simple because they're unwanted
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defense_(theory)
     
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    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    China makes reproductive decisions for women. That's what you want for the US. Pro-choicers believe women have the right to determine the size and timing of their own families.

    BTW, "unborn women" is an absurd oxymoron.
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    They do, through contraception - those who are too lazy or promiscuous to use it can put the baby up for adoption if they aren't willing or able to raise it.

    The majority of abortions in China are done to female babies, therefore the pro-abortion movement is much of a bigger war on women.
     
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    DorkdoltConservative New Member

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    I agree. Not-yet-born woman is much better. Or as that seer travis guy used "womb-trapped" woman is also nice.
     
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    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    You find something wrong with, as you describe abortion, "murdering innocent unborn"? What is wrong exactly?
     
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    Or they can abort. Simple.

    So what?
     
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    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    No that's stupid. That's like calling a female child a "not-quite-there-but-will-one-day-be-a-woman-later" woman. Quite pointless and retarded. A child is a child just as a fetus is a fetus and a woman is a woman.
     
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    Contraception frequently fails, even for women who are neither lazy nor promiscuous. Pregnancy requires a year of a woman's life (including recovery), and then not all children can be adopted, so the decision belongs to the woman regarding her own body and life. Forcing a woman to continue a pregnancy is just as objectionable as forcing her to terminate one.
     
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    No, killing that doctor is an act of defense, while your killing of the person that wants to kill the doctor would be an clear act of aggression and could even make you an accomplice to the doctors murderous scheme.

    If it didn't want to be alive it would not live.
     
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    This has to be the most stupid thing I've seen a bunch of lifers ever do.

    Dont they realize woman will just go back to coat hangers and infanticide?

    (*)(*)(*)(*)ing morons.
     
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    Well no because the person I'm killing wants to kill someone else, hence its "self defence" as you called it and thus perfectly ok under your logic.

    Not at all, it would make me a moral agent, as you described, because I'm defending an innocent life - because there is NOTHING WRONG IN KILLING A FETUS.

    No if it wanted to be alive it would have a mind to exhibit such an interest. It doesn't, hence it has no interest in its life.
     
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    DorkdoltConservative New Member

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    Consider that i used the term woman to describe a "female human".
     
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    The person you want to kill is using lethal force to stop a murderous doctor. You would kill that person and also allow the doctor to kill another person. I'm shocked!


    No if it wanted to be alive it would have a mind to exhibit such an interest. It doesn't, hence it has no interest in its life.[/QUOTE]
    You said the fetus
    There is no proof to suggest that the fetus has suicidal feelings. Or that the fetus as an organism has no interest to live before it can feel. Every living being has an interest to live until it consciously decides otherwise. And we're already talking about this in the other thread.
     
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    DorkdoltConservative New Member

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    And they will be held accountable, they're not morons.
     
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    no it is not
     
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    yes it is
     

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