Is Nebraska really considering giving immunity to anyone who kills doctors. . .

Interest is a mental quality. Actual already existing mind (functioning brain) is a prerequisite for having any interests. I disagree that mere future potential of acquiring a brain is enough.

 

The life cycle of a tree begins with a seed, but a seed is not a tree.

 

Cady don't you think a mother should be able to kill her children no matter how old they are?

WAr on women…….hell we can outright kill Cady….what don't you get? WE CAN KILL. CAN MEN DO THIS LEGALLY?

 

It is laughable to want a life in the womb to live? No skippy that says more about you than me. You find it comical to kill the unborn…its funny and entertaining to you. You don't have a clue. I am a pro-lifer…and I am against the death penalty. I do not like violence….except for self protection. And the unborn need protection. It is so sad that you think so low of life. God only knows what else you condone.

You left wing radical humanists….are sad.

 

No, I think murder is wrong.

Sure, men kill all the time in war, and you have said, "war is good." "WAR IS GOOD." Strange statement for someone who claims to "love life."

 

No, that's stupid.

Oh boy you are slow. No, men and woman kill fetuses - very different to just killing and killing anyone. A fetus is not of the same worth as other humans. It has no interest in being alive.

 

I guess we prefer to look at SCIENCE biology than CHRISTIAN biology!

Are you going to try to pretend that prior to the development of the brain stem there is any hope for the cluster of cell to develop into a functioning human!

 

Ok, so why and how is this potentiality, because that's essentially the crux of your argument (since you agree a fetus in no mental state to have any realization it is alive), argument justified? Do you not see the ramifications of that? You could argue, its never good to stop a murderer from getting away because he could "potentially" turn himself in of his own volition. You could never allow people to fly on a plane because it could "potentially" crash. See where I'm going with this.
Better yet, why should "potential" trump existing interests, that is, why should a potential interest trump and existing interest.

Seems unnecessary since the real conflict is over potential, not an interest, since you agree a fetus does not have the mental capacity to have an interest. What you are advocating is that a social will to protect the future life of the fetus is imposed on the woman in question and I want a valid justification for such a policy.

 

You are so funny! So. . .a cluster of cell has a "thought process that concludes that it wants to live?"

Oh well. . .Have it your way dear!

 

Sure but that's not what you said - you said some nonsense about "unborn woman" - totally nonsensical and clearly used with dubious intent.

Correct, but these are not valid reasons in defending the life of a fetus.

Yeah - how you NOW describe it. Also they wouldn't put "innocent" in because that's totally subjective - that's another ingrained word in the debate that is essentially meaningless, that's the same as saying "a cute, little, gooey, slimy, ugly, small" fetus at the beginning - its a relative adjective, not a substantive description. But whatever, I dont really care, I just think it points out the entirely flawed character of even the most simplest lifer thoughts on this topic.

 

Talk about right wing religious fanatics! Have to love those "loving" Christians. I suspect this bill goes nowhere and if ever passed quickly drug down by federal courts.

 

So you believe it is okay to murder a human being in order to save a clump of cells?

That makes YOU pro death. Not pro life.

 

"I am personally opposed to shooting abortionists, but I don't want to impose my moral values on others."
-- Ann Coulter

 

When did Ann Coulter stop wanting to impose her moral values on others?

 

hahaha so true. She's such a crazy moron. Its amazing in America how media outlets base "expertise" on politics around who is essentially the loudest.

 

Trying to use arguments made in support of abortion as justification for those actions after the child is born is purposefully dishonest, and just downright stupid. You're a woman, with children. Are you unaware of that glaring distinction between a child that's been born and a child that's still in the womb? Puuuuuhhhhllleeeeaaazzzzeeee woman!

 

Aside from Ann Coulter having the brain power of a bucket of year old dried poop, she is not in any position to impose her moral values on anyone in the first place. Nobody is, because no one solitary person makes a law, especially one that cannot be overturned, in this country.

 

Please point out to me where i support abortion.

 

Don't get too worked up about it. For some on this forum, merely not being 100% rabidly frothing at the mouth anti-abortion means you're an advocate for it, and wish there were more of them everywhere, and all paid for by the government.

 

Then they call guys like Ralph Nader "radical"

 

Junkieturtle said,

"Trying to use arguments made in support of abortion as justification for those actions after the child is born is purposefully dishonest, and just downright stupid. You're a woman, with children. Are you unaware of that glaring distinction between a child that's been born and a child that's still in the womb? Puuuuuhhhhllleeeeaaazzzzeeee woman!"

You want to know why I used this with Cady...because she does not even want newborns to have personhood.

This is what she said yesterday in post 42# ...thread Thumbs Up To Infanticide.

She was asked this question, “Would you oppose a law that stripped newborns of their personhood status?”

She answered, “Obviously I would, but I don't see that as being likely to happen.

http://www.politicalforum.com/abortion/252246-thumbs-up-infanticide-5.html

No rights...no personhood for the born child. I take that as being pro-infanticide should the mother want to do it at birth.

And you were saying?

 

You are the rabidly frothing at the mouth person who…advocates killing children. And you think I am immoral and wrong. LMAO

 

gamewell said,

You said this….

Suggests you are pro-choice. I am right aren't I?

Suggests to me you are defensive and hate pro-lifers as you laughed in your opening sentence and here you show your ignorance because you have no way of knowing that those who are pro-life would advocate what you suggest. Your hatred and your ignorance show.

The whack job politicians is trying to protect the unborn…right or wrong…that is what he is trying to do. And you don't like it. He probably no doubt it against abortion…your for it…and it pissed you off.

How far am I from the truth. LOL

Are you prochoice? HAHA

 

"I am personally opposed to shooting abortionists, but I don't want to impose my moral values on others."
-- Ann Coulter

Love this statement…and you liberals should like it too. It's about killing and freedom to kill. Shouldn't we all have that choice? How many of you own a gun?

 

Where did I say this? I do not believe in violence unless it is for self protection. I believe that at conception it is not just a clump of cells…it is a new human life. I have over one hundred quotes from scientific journals I could send your way. Would you like them?

I am not pro-death…I am anti killing unborn children.