Is Nebraska really considering giving immunity to anyone who kills doctors. . .

Wishful thinking but probably not.

 

No, in fact you are very wrong. Nowhere in any of my posts here have I ever advocated abortion. I have said in here that many so-called 'pro-lifers' are in essence 'cafeteria' style pro-lifers (they support the death penalty, elimination of social programs that people depend on to live, etc).

I challenge you to find a post (and not one of your 'interpretations') where I have advocated abortion.

 

You talked poorly of pro-lifers…making pot shots lumping us ALL IN THE SAME BOAT. You have no way of knowing that we all are pro-death penalty…but you said it anyway. Your tone speaks…volumes about your view of those who simply want protection for the unborn.

So tell us your views. ARe you pro-choice or pro-life?

Do you advocate abortion or want protection for the unborn?

 

Your comment supports the murder of people who have a job you don't like. Like it or not, there is a difference between abortion and murder. The fact pro lifers can't see that makes them an extremely dangerous group of people.

 

No it does not….what I did was make a pot shot at one of YOUR OWN LINES. Don't you get it? Mine did the same thing Coulters did to people who hold your position.

How many pro-lifers kill abortionists every year. In fact how many have been killed since 1973? Taking into account the 50 million abortions performed…..how does it stack up?

LOL

Pro-lifers are the most loving, peaceful group around. And you would know that if you knew what you were talking about. Have you ever been to a prayer vigil outside a clinic? Ever been to anything where pro-lifers have been? I have never in twelve years seen even ONE act of violence. If anything I have seen violent speech representing your side.

 

Pro lifers are peaceful? Yes, I can certainly see that. Prayer vigil? How about abuse? And you cannot compare abortion to murdering abortionists. Pro lifers claim to be pro life, but when an abortion doctor gets murdered, they practically celebrate. And many of them support the death penalty, so life is only valuable when they choose.

 

It's disappointing to know there are people on this earth so ignorant and outrageous to propose such a thing. I have actually personally met and talked with the senator who proposed and supported this bill. Being a liberal in a conservative dominated area, I decided to approach him and share some of my personal beliefs on key political issues (i.e. Abortion, Gay Rights, Gun Control) and he walked away from me mid conversation. I suppose that he didn't want to know what America's future had to say about his policies. Aside from this bill, he also proposed a bill here in Nebraska that requires all school teachers to carry a weapon with them. I take great shame in the fact the state I live in could be so radical and unjust that a man such as himself can be chosen to represent us.

 

Have you ever been to one? Yes or no

How many acts of violence or murder did pro lifers commit last year at PP clinics? Millions of abortion happen every year….thousands of doctors performing them…..HOW MANY ACTS OF VIOLENCE ACTUALLY HAPPENED? We are peaceful people…we are not violent even if our message is strong.

You absolutely are losing it, ya know it? Seriously. I do NOT ….GET THIS MAKEDDE….BELIEVE IN VIOLENCE.

I believe the man who killed Tiller…should spend his life behind bars. DID YOU HEAR THAT, READ THAT MAKEDDE?

LET ME SAY THIS ONE MORE TIME.

I DO NOT BELIEVE IN VIOLENCE. BUT YOU DO MAKEDDE……YOU LOVE THE THOUGHT OF THE UNBORN BEING SLAUGHTERED BY THE HANDS OF A HIT PERSON HIRED TO TAKE THIER LIVES. YOU ARE PRO-ABORTION….EVEN PASSED VIABILITY…TO ITS NATURAL DELIVERY.

AND YOU HAVE THE GALL…TO TELL ME I AM FOR VIOLENCE.

GET A GRIP…

 

We cannot have a rational conversation for as long as lifers continue to ignore the fact that abortion is murder.

 

And you still avoid my questions. What is so hard about answering them?

Have you ever been to a prayer vigil at an abortion clinic?

Give us the statistics that show we that value life are so cruel.

 

Not one act of murder is committed by an abortionist. Killing a fetus is not murder (in most places and under most conditions - of a free society, at least).

So by your logic, you are opposed to ALL violence? All wars, all manner of violent self defence etc etc?

 

I've answered plenty - even had a discussion with a priest. It didnt end well, ill say that.

Yep.

I agree with you here, for the most part at least. Lifers are mostly just as sincere as pro-choice individuals. The cruelty seems to play out in the nature of each side, but as I say, its in both sides. Lifers send everyone on a guilt trip (well they try, haha. When they meet someone like me they have troubles with such tactics), whilst pro-choice people often trivialize genuine arguments and position of the lifer stance.

 

An individuals morality is subjective at best. What may be immoral to you, may be moral to me. It all depends on the culture and subculture the individual has been exposed to. For this very reason is why we have laws.

 

That makes absolutely no sense. If all morality were individually subjective, you could never had a form of law outside of the individual - law IS morality - its a social institutionalization of moral values. Morality is at the core of ALL social issues. To say, incorrectly, that morality is always relative to the individual means you believe you cannot have a valid moral position in anything because its all subjective. Contrary to this nonsense, morality can be quantified and objectified as an external, that is independent and universal, concept and notion of reality.

No matter what side of debate or what issue, one must make this realization, because if one cant then they have taken the position that there is no truthful sense of morality - just a personal free-for-all, which is entirely nonsensical, and if adopted in your case, invalidates every opinion you have as a valid argument - because its all relative to you individually.