Is Zimmy Going To Get Beat Up?

If you do not want to discuss the matter then YOU let it go and be gone, however if you are going to post about the matter here on a public debating board you can expect to be challenged. I am convinced of what the investigators and interrogators said about his statements and what the evidence shows about them. Why should I believe something else as you do?

 

I get it your convinced that he told the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I myself disagree... now let it go!

 

This entire post proves what I've said previously about you, and most other Zimmy supporters...compassion and common sense are your enemies on this issue.

You just can't seem to let it sink in that almost everybody, especially me, support the verdict.

 

LOL, knowing this little Tray was on the phone, lurking in a neighborhood he was in by the grace of his actions in school, its so ok that Trayvon called George a racial slur and attacked him. It really is funny. Then the Prez steps into this, riling the blacks with the revelation he could have cheated on Michelle and fathered Trayvon. Oh, no, wait, he said he could be his father, not because he was a cheating scumbag, but because him and that child shared the same photshopped skin tone Trayvon had. Nothing wrong with that at all.

 

No one is forcing you to participate and when you do your post will be addressed.

I understand you do not want to use the evidence to guide your opinion but rather your emotions, why do you forsake the evidence for emotions?

 

Actually it demonstrates quite the opposite and that we, especially me, view the issue solely from the evidence not the emotion that the Martin supporters base their misdirected compassionate and nonsensical conclusions upon.

Then why are you arguing with me?

 

You understand nothing. I would suggest that it is you who has forsaken the evidence that George is a pathological liar. I never addressed you or asked you anything concerning the case I was conversing with someone else when you butted in suggesting something that didn't even apply to what we were discussing. I wouldn't engage you in this thread as I all ready know your position please allow me to sum it up for you.

I get it your convinced that he told the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I myself disagree... now let it go!

 

There is no such evidence and none was presented in court, the trained investigators and interrogators found his statements consistent with the evidence and they had nothing to contradict them. So it is you who tosses aside the evidence not me.

This is an open board in which you injected yourself.

Your disagreement based on what? What of his statements were proven fallacious in the trial?

 

I am, and I'm not.

Let's see if simple will work for you.

I support the verdict of not guilty of murder 2.

I believe Zimmerman made poor decisions the night of the shooting, and if he wouldn't have made them, as would I not have...any potential burglaries, and the killing of Martin, wouldn't have happened.

Do you think Zimmerman acted within the scope of his duties as Neighborhood Watch Coordinator when he went looking for a potentially dangerous suspect without any idea if he was observing from a safe distance?

 

Bluesguy's position is simple, and he needs it to be.

The verdict was not guilty of murder 2, or manslaughter...and that means Zimmerman made NO unsound decisions that night. He may think OJ and Casey Anthony are innocent through use of the same logic

 

Does this give you a hard on or something? I owe you no explanation concerning my reason for not believing Georgie due to the fact that he lies to judges about finances and passports, and none will be forthcoming.

And I'll remind you again that it was you who interjected themselves into a conversation and began ranting about something that wasn't even being discussed.

I get it you are convinced that Georgie told the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth... I am not so naive. Please take your hard on somewhere else.

 

Which the evidence did not support.

And Martin didn't? Zimmerman's decisions that night in no way warranted an assault on him and in fact were perfectly reasonable.

The only thing that led to Martin's shooting was Martin's actions.

Moot point as was shown at trial. He had no "duties" as a watch coordinator but the fact was he was WATCHING wasn't he. And his getting out of his truck was perfectly reasonable considering what the NEN dispatcher had been requesting of him and that the suspicious person had run off.

But NONE OF THE THAT warranted the assault that was committed on him or the threat of serious bodily harm or death he was facing when he pulled out his gun to defend himself.

 

It is the wife who faces charges for lying. Zimmerman's statements were found entirely credible and supported by the evidence so I guess you really have no explanation to offer.

I'll remind you that you injected yourself into the discussion which was about the emotions involved and that I commented on taking out the emotions and viewing it from the evidence.

What is naive about believing the sworn testimony of the investigators and interrogators and the physical evidence rather than just letting emotions guide you to a conclusion? Who is being naive here?

As I said perhaps you should try to take your emotions out of it.

 

When did I hire you to speak for me? I was have been from the getgo quite clear in what I mean and what I mean is that the only thing that matters is the evidence which means that when he pulled the trigger on the gun he was acting in a lawful manner defending himself from serious bodily harm or death the assault Martin was committing on him put him in imminent danger of receiving.

 

I mean, do you seriously forget the four minutes Trayvon had to get back in his temp place to stay because of his third suspension? I mean, did you go to the bathroom when Mark O'Mara had the court sit for four long minutes in silence? If anyone had a right to be out in the neighborhood it would be the coordinator of the NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH. If you can give a Trayvon a pass for whatever reasons as to why you think he did not understand or could read the signs posted all over the complex about the NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH, then ok, I can't, I am not operating under the impression Trayvon was retarded and illiterate. Do I think he was a neglected youth who turned into a thug, yes, but the kid double password protected his phone and hid his crap under a fake foreign language file, impressive.

 

Do you think Zimmerman acted within the scope of his duties as Neighborhood Watch Coordinator when he went looking for a potentially dangerous suspect without any idea if he was observing from a safe distance?

 

Zimmerman had no idea whether or not Martin had been suspended. So it was irrelevant to Zimmerman's justification of his suspicion of Martin

Of course he had a right to be there. But the Neighborhhod Watch guidelines say you must observe from a safe distance. Zimmerman didn't even know where Martin was when he left his truck to find out where he was. You can't follow someone from a safe distance unless you know what the distance is.

I never gave Martin a "pass". He should have ran, and kept running.

Having trouble understanding the point you're trying to make.

 

What are the "duties" to watch and report, that is what he was doing. Trying to keep an eye on him and report what he did was at the request of the NEN dispatcher.

 

I guess another example of how we all see things differently. Trayvons actions, is what put him in George path, argue it all you want. The reason he was in the area is important, even if you don't agree or see the point.

Once again, Trayvon had FOUR minutes to get out of his perceived harms way of the cracka. I guess some didn't get that at all, that Trayvon left, and came back. That part didn't seal his fate, its when he attacked another human being. I suppose one has to become the victim of an attack before they could ever get the depth or complexity of this case, I really don't know.

 

Do you think Zimmerman acted within the scope of his duties as Neighborhood Watch Coordinator when he went looking for a potentially dangerous suspect without any idea if he was observing from a safe distance?

 

Which is exactly what the evidence showed.

 

Zimmerman could have easilly avoided Martin, and the police arrived moments later...if he would have just stayed in his truck. That's the sensible thing to do. The cops were on their way. It's also what I would have done.

Martin and Zimmerman both made poor decisions that night.

Martin is dead, and Zimmerman is alive.

 

I made myself perfectly clear and he there are no "duties" involved he not only was a watch person he is a private citizen and he was acting at the request of the NEN dispatcher. It has no bearing on the assault to which he was subjected. It would be no different from me walking out to the street to see which way a suspicious person turns at the corner so I could tell the police when they arrive in response to my calling them.

 

Your faith in Georgie being 100% honest is duly noted.

 

I think we are all aware who died here and who is alive, obviously, kinda an empty statement.

I am not quite sure why the comprehension level about Trayvon having minutes to stay out of trouble and save his life does not register with some people. George had every right to be in his neighborhood waiting for the cops, I am sorry you cannot agree about that. I guess the logic here with some is that death absolves you of any wrong doing. I can't personally pretend and go by that because then I would have to say, hey Hitler wasn't such a bad guy. 4 minutes to go back to where you were and be alive, thats all he had to do. But if some would rather pretend that George hunted him like an animal, thats fine, to each their own.