Is Zimmy Going To Get Beat Up?

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  1. Bluesguy

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    He did, when Martin was approaching his truck he rolled up the window and did not get out until Martin had run off and after 4 times the NEN dispatcher urge him to keep an eye on him and tell them what he did. He had no obligation to stay in his truck nor does his exiting it mitigate the fact that later Martin assaulted him and was threatening him with serious bodily harm.

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    It's not a matter of faith it is a matter of sworn testimony and other evidence. You have nothing to refute the testimony of the trained investigators and interrogators so who is dealing in faith here? You not me.
     
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    Call it what you want but it's faith, and slightly borderline hero worship.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    Oh spare me your hyperbole does not change the evidence. As I said only one person is relying on faith here and it ain't me.. I could care less about Zimmerman as a person, he means nothing to me. I do care about justice and the law, you should try it.
     
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    Just a little advice here justice and the law are two different things. To many people have been jailed only to be exonerated later for me to believe some silly notion that our court system gets it right 100% of the time. You continue to believe the false notion that just because Georgie gave his statements then we have the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. There are two sides to this story and Georgie ensured that the other side will never be told, and I'm not naive enough to believe his side of the story is the whole truth. But you go ahead with that faith of yours in that it's the whole truth.
     
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    Trayvon was a thug kid who got shot because he decided to attack someone. End of story.
     
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    Like it or not it's only half the story and calling him names doesn't lend any credence to your warped sense of reality.
     
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    Except, he was a little thug who was doing drugs, doing terrible in school and attacked someone instead of going back to his Daddys secret girlfriends house.
     
  8. Not The Guardian

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    Question: What happened to Don Glock?
     
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    He didn't have a legal obligation to stay in his truck, but anyone safely carrying out Neighborhood Watch policies and procedures...would have ignored the urge to leave the truck, because he had no way of knowing if he was observing Martin at a safe distance or not. Especially because the police would be there in minutes

    He had no obligation to obey the bad advice of the NEN. If he would have ignored the urge to leave his truck and play cop, nobody would be dead, and no burgalries would have occured.
     
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    And it seems that you would have zimmy go shoot all others just like him. Is this really your point?
     
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    Trayvon was a 17 year old kid, who displayed some behavior that could be characterized as "thug" behavior. 17 year old kids often grow up, and out of that kind of behavior.

    Nobody but Zimmerman saw who attacked who. You're blindly taking the word of a defendent that was on trial for his life. Your confidence in him is wishfull thinking
     
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    George just needs to get a real job, instead of fishing around for donations and stupid people buying his art work, and now fighting. He already acts as if he has had multiple concussions, it would be in his best interest not to fight, but get a real job.
     
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    No, my point is the kid was bad and he had no impulse control. He left the area while "Zimmy" was on the phone with 911, which is documented. Trayvon decided to attack and he got shot. Any person, no matter their sex or age or color, if you decide to attack someone, then you risk getting killed. Its really not that complex to understand is it?
     
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    Yeah, you really feel comfy saying that most black teens, since color is important here, do most of them after the age of 17 get it together? Any stats?
     
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    Don't need your advice thank, justice is based in the law and that the justice in enforcing the law be blind to emotions and bias and be based on the scales of the evidence.

    This is about Zimmerman and Martin.

    And nowhere have I said any such thing so here is the deal I will tell what I believe and you try to refute it with the evidence. I believe the testimony of trained investigators and interrogators, what evidence refutes their testimony as to Zimmerman's statements? Now I have stated that quite clearly to you so what is the difficulty you seem to have understanding that?

    There is only one side to the evidences and one set of facts. Deal with them.

    Present the evidence that refutes it and the testimony of the investigators and interrogators which says his statements were not credible. One more time, mine conclusions are based on the evidence and testimony, not faith as in your simple dismissals of that testimony and evidence. So when you speak of faith based speak of yourself not me.
     
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    Also, alot in this story, and I could reference a few posts, but it becomes a well, this is not what I would do, so I imagine they would not do it debacle and its not feasible for anyone compare themselves to a situation they have never been in. Just the fact George was on the phone with the law should show most people he wasn't trying to kill a poor tall lean black teen that night, but hey whatever.
     
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    And we all know for 100% certain that Travon attacked Zimmy because Zimmy said so and Zimmy would never lie, yeah I get what you're saying I'm just not naive enough to believe it like you. And it's sad that you think Georgie did us all a favor by shooting that mean old nasty thug black boy.
    Is that too complex for you to understand?
     
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    I will never be naive enough to believe that our judicial system is always 100% right as you do. George is a liar and we will never ever have all the facts of this case. You're willing to settle for half the story while I'm not.
     
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    He passed a lie detector test and a voice stress test. You are the one obsessed with color, as one is better than the other. Trayvon was a bad kid, everyone knows it, but Obama revealed he may have cheated on Michelle with Trayvons mom to father him and now hes like JFK jr.
     
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    I get you, you've made yourself clear, Travon deserved to be shot dead because you didn't like the way he behaved, because you were there and know for a fact that Zimmy never lied about anything. I myself am not so gullible.

    It's clear to me that we don't now and never will have all the facts of this case not unless you can raise Travon from the grave and get his side of the story.

    But look your boy got off so why would you even care about any of this, perhaps there's some reason, perhaps you are just a little unsure that you are 100% correct. If your 100% sure that Zimmy told the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth why would you continue to try to convince me of it? Let me assure you that you are wasting your time.
     
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    Nobody but an activist conservative businessperson would hire him, and even then, only to make a point. So he'd probably sit on his arse and get paid for nothing. Which would be fitting given his talents
     
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    That's kind of silly. Who tracks troubled black youths, to see if they have records after what?...20? 25?....

    Sounds like you love the idea of black kids getting shot at 17, as opposed to be given the chance to straighten out.

    Did Martin have an arrest record?
     
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    Well, personally, I dont live in a world, knowing the giant kid was a MINOR and his school did not report crimes because they didn't want to show how bad it is, but please, please, Dahmer was never arrested prior either, so that probably means he didn't eat and rape guys huh? Is that the logic that we are striving to get here? Also, seriously, dont be part of the problem with the black community by pretending it isnt a troubled race of people, I mean that wouldn't even be lucid.
     
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    I don't even think it's necessary to reply here!
     

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