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Man Brutally Punches Woman on New York Subway Platform in Unprovoked Attack

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  1. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    IMO violence in a society is the biggest factor that holds it back from evolving. People willing to commit acts of violence on strangers in public have no place in a modern society.
     
    Oldyoungin, Jun 28, 2023
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    He looked like a minor.
     
    Esau, Jun 28, 2023
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    According to reality. Being kept in jail pre-trial has ALWAYS been a thing in our country. Not even you honestly object to it. No one talking about "10 years" has said that in the context of sentencing without trial.
     
    yardmeat, Jun 28, 2023
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  4. Esau

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    that's likely how they too feel.
     
    Esau, Jun 28, 2023
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    Minors can be detained pending trial if they are violent. As they should be.
     
    yardmeat, Jun 28, 2023
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  6. Esau

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    Like probation?
     
    Esau, Jun 28, 2023
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  7. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    They can feel that way while being kept away from productive citizens.
     
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    Oldyoungin, Jun 28, 2023
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    Community service then.
     
    Esau, Jun 28, 2023
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    No. Like being held in jail pending trial. Probation comes after trial.
     
    yardmeat, Jun 28, 2023
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    Community service comes after trial. This person is a physical threat. Yes, that means they can be kept in jail pending trial.
     
    yardmeat, Jun 28, 2023
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    not for violent crimes such as these, this is not a simple shoplifting charge
     
    FreshAir, Jun 28, 2023
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  12. Esau

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    Yes but for how long? This is where racism can exploit a situation.
     
    Esau, Jun 28, 2023
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  13. Oldyoungin

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    Until the trial is over and they are given a sentence to serve.
     
    Oldyoungin, Jun 28, 2023
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    Kept in jail as a minor for a minor offence?
     
    Esau, Jun 28, 2023
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    Can they post bail?
     
    Esau, Jun 28, 2023
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    Depends on their criminal history and the judge/DA's decision on whether they can rely on the person to show up again for their court case.
     
    Oldyoungin, Jun 28, 2023
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    Yes, there can definitely be some racial disparities there, and I fully support researching that. But it doesn't change the fact that being held in jail pending trial is not comparable to "Nazi Germany."
     
    yardmeat, Jun 28, 2023
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    this is not a minor offense
     
    FreshAir, Jun 28, 2023
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    Physical assault isn't a "minor offence."
     
    yardmeat, Jun 28, 2023
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    It can totally be compared to it if there is believed to be systemic racism within the judicial system.
     
    Esau, Jun 28, 2023
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    It is. Nobody was seriously hurt.
     
    Esau, Jun 28, 2023
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    I think comparing the execution of a race for simple existing vs holding someone in jail who punched a lady in the face for no reason isn't remotely comparable to anyone being honest here.
     
    Oldyoungin, Jun 28, 2023
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    So how long from arrest to trial, roughly?
     
    Esau, Jun 28, 2023
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    As the descendent of someone who barely survived a Nazi prison camp, I concur.
     
    yardmeat, Jun 28, 2023
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  25. Oldyoungin

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    Depends on the complexity of the case, the actions of the defendant, the backlog of the courtroom, and the cooperation of witnesses.
     
    Oldyoungin, Jun 28, 2023
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