Man Brutally Punches Woman on New York Subway Platform in Unprovoked Attack

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    which means the first time caught is a hand slap, also known as a suspended sentence for a serious assault on an innocent person
     
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    It wasn't a serious assault. You just want to see a black youth jailed for 10 years without trial.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that is a serious assault, the victim deserves justice, the attacker needs to be actually punished, a sucker punch to the head is a serious assault
     
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    It was a black eye but you would like to see a black male jailed for 10 years without trial, apparently.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it was a sucker punch to the head of a human being, but you would prefer they get no time

    and no, they should get a trial, and when found guilty.. be punished (regardless of race)

    why do you think white people should be able to sucker punch to the head black women and the elderly without punishment?
     
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  6. Darthcervantes

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    knowing a person got 10 years for that would definitely help deter future occurrences. Another woman that was sucker punched in the subway might lose vision in one eye. (it was even worse than this sucker punch incident, way wors, also on video). It's a big deal.
     
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    But you want 10 years without question, apparently.
     
  8. FreshAir

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    yep, I do....

    why do you think white people should be able to sucker punch to the head black women and the elderly without punishment?
     
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    So . . . unless you are able to violently assault people, unprovoked, on the subway, and avoid jail time . . . it's Nazi Germany?
     
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    Yes and so is the result of an action, luckily nobody was seriously hurt. There are considerations to make, remorse, the mental state of the perpetrators, their upbringing, prior convictions etc etc. You don't just jail someone for 10 years with taking into account these things. Evidently we have ppl in society that don't want to see due process.
     
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    Yes iknow you do. We all know, you posted it on page one
     
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    Jail with no trial appears eerily similar to it, yes.
     
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    no one but you said jail without trial

    you said no jail time if found guilty, though....
     
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    10 years.

    No questions asked.
     
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    Those are all valid points. I can't argue with any of that. I personally don't think remorse should be a factor but thats my opinion and i'm not a lawyer.
     
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    Jail is almost always pre-trial. People are held in jail pending trail. That's how jail works. Prison is post-trial. Are you saying that no one should ever be held in jail pending trial? A neo-nazi could be caught on camera mowing down 20 black people in their church and you'd be fine with just letting them walk around on the street until trial? Seriously? I call bull ****.
     
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    Remorse is actually a very big mitigating factor in the courtroom.
     
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    Not a single person said "10 years. No questions asked."
     
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    ok, sounds good too me, during sentencing, mandatory 10 years (sentencing occurs after a guilty verdict)
     
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    not according to the mob that scream 10 YEARS!
     
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    I believe you but it seems strange. I mean what lawyer is going to tell their client "don't act remorseful"?
     
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    They just did ^^
     
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    Remorse can have some mitigating factor. But it is normally more of a lack or remorse being taken in as a factor for more serious punishment. When appealing to remorse, I think that's more of a parole hearing thing after some time has already been served. I've volunteered extensively with soon-to-be-released prisoners and I do have some sympathy for helping as much as we can with rehabilitation. But, for me, that's after you've already served at least part of your sentence. This guy is clearly dangerous and belongs in jail pending trial.
     
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    Pride often keeps ppl from being truly remorseful. A judge can sense if it's genuine or not.
     
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    no they did not, they said someone found guilty of this heinous crime should get a mandatory 10 year sentence

    why do you think they should get no time?
     
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