Marjorie Taylor Greene posts anti-transgender sign across hall from lawmaker with transgender child

I agree too. But let's hear the full story first, the so-called 'nuanced field', and what the standards of care are.

 

An immediate thought is that it's all well to restrict sex change medical therapies until the client is 18, for the sake they might change their mind. However, for those that won't change their mind childhood is the only opportunity to make significant physiological changes to fit their chosen sex.

It appears that the questioning was along the lines of - if the parent is not involved can the child make a decision by themselves? This is again another level of complexity. I wonder how often this situation actually arises

 

The majority of children that talk about wanting to be of another sex grow out of wanting to change their sex by the time they are in the mid to late teens. Some don't until early twenties. I don't know the exact numbers though. I do know that about 8 percent of those that have transitioned want to de-transition. Though apparently 62 percent of those later wanted to reverse that also. This according to a VOX article so take it for what its worth. :shrug:

In either case...does it really matter? The whole thing is cosmetic anyways. It doesn't change the biological facts. They can wait until they are 18. Being convinced to do something at a young age is too easy to do. It's one reason that incest is banned. Hell, its even a reason that adult students and teachers are banned from having any sort of relationship beyond teacher/student. Influencing those under your care is way too easy to do. And quite frankly there are waaaay to many people that are crazy enough to want to do something like change the gender of their child just because they wanted a girl but instead had a boy or visa versa.

 

Being a waste of space has nothing to do with truth or lies...

Newman needs to up her game - Next sign "Which gender do you prefer to violate the teachings of the Bible with"?

 

Yes, I agree with a lot of that, but I'm going to reserve judgement on the science because it's, well, complex and new and there is more to learn. And yes, you've got to look at all of the motivations behind these decisions.

I think, however, it would be extremely disturbing to feel as though you were born in the body of the opposite sex and genuinely feel that way throughout. There should be checks and balances in the way, though, before any sort of permanent changes are made - to separate the genuine from the pursuaded, so to speak. (I'm sure there is a whole bunch of proper terminology to discuss this accurately).

 

Marjorie Taylor Greene posts anti-transgender sign across hall from lawmaker with transgender child

She must have read book somewhere about how to make enemies.

 

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Do intersexed people exist, yes or no?

 

There is a larger spectrum than just binary male and binary female. Intersexed people exist. Please fall between two categories but it is incorrect to say there are only two.

I am sure there is intersexed pornography but it is strange that is the first place you went to justify your argument instead of peer reviewed medical journals or pieces of scientific literature.

 

They are apperrations from the norm. This does not mean there are more than two genders. There are abberrations from the norm in every population.

No one on the left is concerned with intersex people they are demanding recognition for manufactured claims.

 

Sex, like orientation, exists on a spectrum. There are binary male and female (the most common) and everything in between. How many? Literally an infinite number — many of which might not ever know they fall outside of the binary norm.

If you use the sole criterion of production of reproductive cells there are only two sexes (potentially three if you count “true” hermaphrodites as they produce both sex organs)

Like everything in life it isn’t black and white. There is more than just male and female.

On the front that there are only two genders, that is just completely wrong — as per the medical, scientific and common definition of gender — it is a societal construct.

 

You are confusing gender with sex now.

I really don’t care what the left is concerned with. People need to be accurate with their speech. Sex exists on a spectrum. You agree that there are options that exist outside of the binary options, so I am sure you can see how people say there are more than two (because there are).

If we would stop treating people differently, treat everyone equally with the same rights and rules as everyone else with no special benefits this wouldn’t even matter — but the right needs someone to attack and the left needs someone to elevate.

 

No I am not and sex does not exist on a spectrum'.

People have gthe same rights and rules but no one is obligated to treat everyone the same nor does everyone deserve to be treated the same.

 

Except it does. If you have two types of marbles — blue and red ones — you have two different marbles. If one is purple how many marbles do you have? You even agreed that intersexed people exist, are those individuals different from the absolute binary male or absolute binary female?

I disagree that everyone doesn’t deserve to be treated the same from a legal perspective and issue of rights.

 

That is the very first time that I heard of a "trans" flag. Look at it this way there is a flag for "every " political position and likely every sexual position starting with missionary, ; for gayness, feminism, lesbianism, Trumpism, Communism, zoology, .......... so the existence a 1,223, 911 th flag should not surprise us.

PS didn't the San Francisco MAMBLA TURDS have a pedophile flag ??

 

You make great points (against VERY limited competition here) on this topic.

Where do you stand on transgenders playing girls sports?

I'm obviously all for LGBTQ rights in all areas of society, but allowing a physically advantaged person to play with and against biological females is a bridge too far for me...

It's sad that they might not have a place to play sports, but life ain't always fair... Sports is a benefit, not a right...

 

What does that (bolded above) mean?

 

XX is Female
XY is Male

That's actual Science, or are the Democrats becoming "Science Deniers"?

 

Greene is as classless as they come, not much different than Trump.

 

No clue! The only thing I know about that is the south park episode I saw that makes fun of it (very funny episode by the way)

 

Of course.

That is Universally Accepted (and Inarguable).

Obviously, in terms of fundraising, antics like the one in question can only serve to help Greene with Trump's Base.

 

I struggle with my position in that area and mostly agree with you. There is no real way to integrate mtf trans athletes into women’s sports — the advantages are just too overwhelming to be ignored. Both sides of the argument make great points but I have been unable to reconcile the unfair advantage.

Your words in bold explain this perfectly. There are always options for new branches of existing sports.

 

Absolutely a

Very true.

 

False equivelance and failure. People and nature do not compare to marbles.

I stated they have the same legal rules and rights. But no one has a right to be treated the equally by other persons.

 

I have very limited information on this so this may be a silly question. Is there some reason they can't have another category for transgendered people? There would have to be enough interest in a district sport for it to work but that might be manageable depending on how districts are set up. I don't mean this to offend anyone.