>>>MOD WARNING<<<Where's the outrage?

Nah, its called getting the facts, something you seem not to be bothered about.

The meme is a lie and where have I tried to convince anyone fetuses are not human . .you should read what is written instead of substituting what you want to see.

you are hilarious, no attempt to refute the facts presented instead you go off on some tangent unrelated to the debate .. it has a name . .strawman.

You mean what you are attempting to do

Yes you certainly have done a good job of showing your inability to debate the issue and remain on topic.

 

Yet another lie, black abortion rates are not 4 times higher than other races .. go do some actual research instead of copying piecemeal from already discredited sites.

 

That's right. Nobody cares.

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I'm outraged because liberal Democrats are hell bent on sweeping this issue under the rug. I'm sorry that airing the Dems dirty little secret makes some uncomfortable. Denial doesn't change the facts.

 

Sigh, yet another lying meme, . .what facts are you actually quoting, ones lifted straight from pro-life sites where they don't even bother to link to the source data .. tell you what you find the source data to all the things your pro-life sites claim as "facts" and let us actually see them instead of some misrepresented BS.

What issues, no one denies that black American women have more abortions than other races . .what you and your pro-life sites are doing is denying the reasons for it, as is plainly obvious in the fact you refuse to debate or dispute the numerous replies here that show your opinion is a pile of horse crap.

 

Interesting. Sounds like you're claiming there is a solution to the problem. Wanna share that with us?

 

Not all democrats. You should check out these guys, they have the right idea.
http://www.democratsforlife.org/

I will be forever baffled how the political party who normally protects the rights of the oppressed, supports the killing and dehumanization of the smallest and most vulnerable humans. It's a complete contradiction.

 

I'll quote a poster who has slam dunked your assertions into the dirt, that's " a pile of horse crap".

And, of course you have no proof anyone is sweeping anything under the rug.......



Why are you outraged that black women have to the right to get an abortion?

You have NEVER answered that question.


Black women are NOT forced to get abortions so what is there to be outraged about?

you have NEVER answered the question.

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Are YOU a Democrat? I know many Democrats who HAVEN'T had two abortions....or even one.....

 

Didn't you say you weren't pro-life?

The contradiction is to say prenates have rights to women's bodies. If women don't have the right to determine what happens to their own bodies, they are the ones being dehumanized.

 

Nope, not pro life. But agree with certain prolife perspectives, especially those held by organisations like democrats for life.

Women do have the choice over what happens to their own bodies, just as men do. They have the choice to get tattoos, piercings, cut their hair, get a boob job, get a sex change, use contraceptives or to just not have sex. Abortion is a choice that kills an often non life threatening and healthy innocent. No one else has that choice. Giving it to women does not make them equal.

Pregnancy and child birth is human. Not only is it human but its feminine. Interferring with a uniquely female healthy and natural condition can not be considered a promotion of women's rights. Changing women to make them fit into a male world is misogynistic. Why can't we just be respected and valued for what we are?

 

Interfering with a woman's choice to decide what happens to her body is interfering with women's rights.

We can only be respected and valued for what we are if we're not automatically considered as vessels for unborn human entities and have our rights stripped away when we become pregnant.

 

And a woman has every right to choose not to get pregnant. So much so that it is illegal for someone to impregenate her against her will.

Or are you suggesting women are incapable of saying no to acts which result in pregnancy?

 

You view women as nothing but a piece of reproductive machinery.......luckily most people view women as people.

How ridiculous to call forcing women to give birth "women's rights"...

YOU want a fetus to have the right to kill and/or harm a healthy "innocent"....a right no one else has.


Murder and rape are "human". Do you support them, too?



Having sex is "human" ....but you don't think women should have sex.....so you really aren't for people being "human".

Getting an education, having a career...they are "human", too, but you don't believe women should do anything but reproduce....THAT is misogynistic.

 

A woman has every right not to BE pregnant.

YOU want her to BE pregnant against her will.....why is that attitude different from a rapist's who wants her to have sex against her will ?

You claim you had two abortions. Why didn't YOU say "no"....(twice).

Women are quite capable of saying "no" but they don't have to, women are just as free as men to have sex...

 

No, but YOU are suggesting that women SHOULD say no, and if they don't say no, well, they need to be punished. Of course, YOU were an exception. You know you aren't the first to preach against abortion but choose to have one yourself.

 

If you believe pro-life organizations "have the right idea," then you support banning abortion, so it's dishonest to say you are not "pro-life."

Bodily autonomy is a fundamental human right. No one can be forced by law to use their body to keep someone else alive, but that is a right you would deny pregnant women.

Doesn't a woman have a right to prevent injury to herself?

No--controlling women to make them fit into a male world is misogynistic. Allowing women the right to reproductive choice and bodily autonomy does show respect and value for them. Forcing them to give birth against their will does not.

 

Do you ever address the actual topic? Does this post have ANYTHING to do with the topic or is constant thread hijacking now allowed???

 

But YOU support the 'killing and dehumanization of the smallest and most vulnerable humans'.....you have even killed 2 of them!

 

There are done with their black slaves now that they can import little brown slaves from Mexico at such low wages. As the Mexican population grows out pacing blacks, the percentage of whites are scheduled to become minorities, but the blacks will also be an even smaller minority as well.

 

Why do you have a problem with black women seeking abortion?

 

Why don't you have a problem with black genocide?

 

You believe this is a self-inflicted genocide, that's what you believe?

 

I think it's more likely it's been orchestrated by the Democrats decades ago and just now showing results. The KKK didn't prove effective, but legalized abortion has taken up the slack.

I could be wrong. It could be mass suicide upon realizing they're being replaced by Hispanics as Dems favored people.

Either way, nobody on the left is outraged. That's been proven by this thread.

 

So your two theories are-

1. "Black women are stupid and easily tricked into having abortions"

or 2. "Black women are racially suicidal and hope to drive their race to extinction through abortion."



Sort of proves a lot of what we think about the Right, huh?

 

This is a self-created trap the "pro-lifer" (throw in GOP partisan too) who tries this "Abortion is a plan by liberals to kill off blacks." create for themselves.

They have to fall into one of two beliefs-

1. "Blacks are stupid and being TRICKED into having abortions." Which shows they think blacks are intellectually inferior.....and thus prove the claimant is a racist.

2. "Blacks are stupid and/or evil and are deliberately killing themselves off by having abortions." Which shows they think blacks are morally inferior...and thus prove the claimant is a racist.

Naturally, they never think out their "theory" to its logical conclusion....as it is a cheap throwaway talking point they get from Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Fox News, etc.....and they don't think it through....

they just parrot it.