Most women are not capable to make a first move to a man

Are the women really equal to a man?
Lets leave alone cases with celebrities, billionaires, etc.
I think women are inferior, since can't handle fear of rejection.
Or if it's not, what is the point limiting your choice only to the males who approaching you? It looks very irrational and stupid.
I won't take an answer as "it's a culture". Every culture has something "based upon", some logic behind it.

 

Don't take me wrong, I am for equality. I mean real equality. When someone is privileged due to their sex, like women, it's not an equality.
So, why not really be equal? Let's not equally share just something good about life, what man has, like higher salary, let's share risks and bitterness of rejection too. Do you know how it feels when you do tons of nice things for someone you like, spend tons of money efforts, attention, and then she just chooses someone else? You feel trashed! You feel devastated! Will she return me all my money spent, my efforts, my time? Nooooo. She keeps that. Is that fair? Why don't you want share this with us too?!

So, don't demand equal salary, better jobs, if you don't want to share bad, bitter things with man. It's unfair, even if women does the same job. Because man does much much for women, then otherwise. And man statistically lives less. And much more man, then women take dirty jobs too.
You have to loose something for that or don't complain about getting something less, then man.

PS. I don't want to offend, but in our times women is clearly a parasite on a mans neck.

 

if you, as a man, try and sit back and wait for the woman to pursue YOU.... you will need much vasoline in your lifetime.


agree with it or not, the fact that they have the vagina and men want it, we must make the first move.

"(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s finish first" I undercut (other guys), I'm cawkblock them, I will sell current boyfriends out if I want to get with their girlfriend

"do you think my bf would cheat on me?"
my reply, even if I don't think he is.... "he probably already has.... if a girl is on facebook replying to his posts all the time, there is sexual tension there and if they haven't already, they will as soon as an opportunity presents itself"

why is it the hardworking guy, who would treat a woman like a queen, usually end up sitting at home on a saturday night while the unemployed prick that left his pregnant g/f at home is out getting some strange from some hawt girl at her place that is at her bacherlorette party?


so you can try and "fix the system" or you can "work the system" your choice.

 

God bless you, you kindhearted soul.

 

You obviously haven't met the right woman.

Women do approach men, when they have something to offer.

Perhaps you need to adjust your attitude, for starters.

 

I think the problem is that there was never a woman that made a first move to you

 

But men don't want it when they are date-raped. You accidentally forgot to say that, right?

You're not helping your claim of as many men being date-raped when you post analogies like this one.

 

lolz @ manhater upset at me calling her stance out as hypocritical....lol

Gwendoline.... your type is easy prey at a bar or party to get in the sack. Me thinks you have been the victim of many one night stands that you thought was love, when it turned out your were mearly a recepticle

 

Why do you think so?
Do you think women dont have to deal with rejection?

 

What an idiotic claim.

From my experience men have far more 'fear of rejection' than women do. Does that make us 'inferior'?

 

Self-respecting, self-possessed women are savvy and spot unsuitable men a mile of. Your projections are to be expected, I guess, given your sleazy demeanor on the forum. I actually feel sorry for you, sleeping around with people you don't even like and then drinking yourself stupid. You come across like a child, not a man. And bitter, too.

I genuinely hope you meet a woman that you like and enjoy being with. Because it's something very worthwhile.

 

no bitterness against women anymore than the same upset I get when the racecard is played, or the gay card.

I want true equality.... not special treatment for minorities based on how their past generations treated them.

 

I see that many of you didn't read carefully what I wrote. You know that I am talking about majority of the cases.

So, it looks like no one can really say anything important. Mostly personal attacks, they are all ignored. And I am not here to discuss criminal issues, like rapes. It's a different topic. There is thread already opened for it.

If women would be capable approaching a man, making first move, then we would see something like 50/50 situation, not 99/1.
So, the fact is the fact - THEY CAN'T. You can't beat this fact. It's solid like a rock.

 

Women have made the first move. They have done it many times. Stop claiming they don't. I have no idea what you base your opinions on, but they are wrong.

 

It's impossible to 'date rape' a man, in fact most guys fantasize about that - well unless the woman was a 300 lb biker or something, but other than that I can't imagine a (straight) guy thinking of that as rape.

 

Unless the guy is better looking than average it is rare that she will make the first move.

 

of course it's possible to date rape a man. erections are an autonomic response.

 

Your premises are all wrong. It's not an issue of men and women being equal, it's a matter of them being different. I think it's silly to expect women to make the first move. If you are interested in a particular girl, you are going to have to make the first move. Otherwise just plan on being alone.

 

It's rare in any case, but does this mean that they dont have to deal with rejection?

Men and women are different. Yes, men make much more often the first move and risk to be rejected, but is this rejection worse than those of a man who does not call again, if he got, what he wanted? There are many ways to experience rejection, I think nearly everyone has to deal with it in his life.

 

Of course women make a move all the time. What am I talking about?!
I would count, they make a move 1 to 99. They do make a move. Of course!!!

 

^ Possibly personal experience, women are not approaching him. There could be any number of reasons for this.

I think it might be something in our bio-chemistry that makes women shyer, I don't know. But women do sometimes approach men. When I first started dating online back in 2004, I met a very sweet man, who asked me the same question. He was very shy & dating was terribly difficult & un-comfortable for him. And I really saw his point. From then on, I made a point of doing searches & emailing men I found interesting, on a regular basis. It's hard for men & it's hard for women. In fact, I met my husband on an online dating site. I saw his profile on a forum post written by a friend of mine, about the difficulties of dating when you are disabled. I added him to my favorites & he messaged me

 

First, it should be : Most women are not capable of making the first move on a man.

Now, as to your "can't handle fear of rejection??

Excues me? Do a google on how many men, when rejected by their girlfriends or wives, KILL somebody. Just lately a man in Wisconsin whose wife divorced him came back to the house and slit the throats of his three daughters. It is MEN who have a problem with rejection.


Now, since you do not know ALL women your comment is presumptuous and erroneous....and makes no sense.

SOME women have no problem approaching men, SOME men have a hard time approaching women.

 

Some women may be shyer and some women just are smarter...approaching strange men can be dangerous whether in person or online.
I am old andd dated in the 60's and 70's, had no trouble hitting on guys (not too smart but most youngsters aren't)
I never felt rejected if they said no (which was seldom ) I just went on to the next....I guess men's opinions of me didn't mean much to me....and still don't.

 

I think Martin is projecting, claiming "Women are inferior, since (they) can't handle rejection".

Some men have been doing it for eons, projecting their 'inferiority' onto women. Instead of working on their inferiority, they've attempted to dump / project it on to women. (You listening, Sigmund Freud?)

Men that go after the wives that leave them and kill them and their entire families are BEYOND having felt rejected, huh? It IS a sick world when someone comes on her claiming women are inferior cos they can't handle rejection in light of what you raise about the men that go after their wives and kill them. And doesn't it make Martin sound trite and like what he's saying is so extraordinarily IRRELEVANT?

The number of women that are killed outside of courts when going to court to file restraining orders / AVOS on their partners is sad and a big travesty.

Those men didn't feel rejected or insecure or left behind or useless on their own... no, they just felt like killing their partners. Just because.

Thanks for raising the point, WhatNow?!

 

I think both sexes are afraid of rejection. It isnt just men who get rejected. I know I have been rejected in the past. 85% of the time I prefer the man to approcah me. I honestly dont think it has to do with my fear of rejection. I may just be old fashioned in that sense. I also like the man to BE the man in the relationship. Dont get me wrong, I am all for equality in pay, jobs etc. But when it comes to dating, I will throw the signals out there, but its up to the guy to approach me most of the time. This has bitten me in the a-s a few times if the guy is absolutley clueless to my "signals", but hey. And as someone said before...if the guy is worth me approaching, then I will approach him. And I am not talking about at a bar at 2am last call. (Grab a whore and hit the door) But ...maybe this is why I am single?

(and "whore" can be of the male OR female persuasion, but its just a joke anyway)