Most women are not capable to make a first move to a man

TBH I like a confident woman who actually goes after what she want's.
Although this can be a bit of pitfall if she misjudges the mans character.

And most of the time that a woman throws out a few signals I often them find to be a bit inconclusive. And that's when I recognise them.

Personally I'm not afraid of rejection but if it's a crush then well what I usually do is go for a walk and after a solace of 12 hours I am no longer bothered about her.

For example when I was travelling/working in New Zealand I was staying at a hostel in four bedroom dorm with. My only roommate was an Irish woman in her late twenties.
For a couple of days nobody else was in that room. So eventually we went down to the bar which was downstairs and she was incapable of even trying to strike up a conversation with me even though we had been having some nice enough ones before and it was only after she drank alot that she could actually smile. A smile btw is very attractive quality in a woman.
Anyway she only got lucky when she saw that I was doing the same with somebody else.

And this btw the way is why I like Aussie girls. They don't mess about. ha ha.
Ultimately I'll be the man in the relationship when were alone but before then the ball is in your court. Also I'm not one to rely on happy chance.

Just to make sure this is a general description. Not trying to flirt with anybody here.

 

Yeah, but these signals could just someone being friendly.

As I have discovered many times. LOL

 

Seeing as woman have and do make the first move proves that woman are capable of do so.

The reason why men are supposed to ask the women out and not the other way around is strictly cultural and based on societal norms. This is NOT true of all cultures.

The idea that this makes woman inferior to men is rediculous.

It is a equivalent of stating: Most woman rear children while men work. That means men are not capable of rearing children which makes them inferior.

 

Yes, that descries your post.

 

Women flirt with men they find interesting and/or attractive.

 

Haha...interesting. I asked my first boyfriend out on a date and we went out for a year and a half and that took a lot of courage because I had some serious butterflies and nervousness doing that. I met my second boyfriend (and now fiance) on a dating website. I guess you could say my fiance made the first move because he sent me an online message which spurred us into a conversation.

 

Whats the old saying, women will run away from a man until they catch him

 

If a woman comes to me and asks me out, I would likely automatically turn her down on the spot. I don't like forceful women. I don't want a mommy, I want a wife. I don't need some naggy, yacky, pushy woman in my life.

If I'm interested in you, I'll come to you, and tell you as such. Then you can decide if you want to go out on a date or not. I'll take your answer either way, and roll with it.

 

stereotype much?

 

That's just a gender stereotype.

 

Sure. If they are true. That's the reason stereotypes exist, is because they are often true. If the stereotype was completely the opposite of reality, no one would follow it. They would laugh and ignore you.

You know why people say that the rednecks in the southern hills say things like "Ya'll come back now, ya hear?"

It's because if you go down to the southern hills, you will hear people say "ya'll come back now, ya hear?"

I thought that was a joke for years. Until I drove on down to the southern hills, and stopped at a small shop down there, and one of the guys there said "Ya'll come back now, ya hear?".

Stereotypes are generally true. That's why they exist. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Now I get there are exceptions, and there are always exceptions. But this is a public forum, and I gave my opinion. That's that.

 

Perhaps...this stereotype has its roots in the personal experience of the OP. Personally, I have not noted a lack of courage from women in "making the first move", but it may be a simple matter of attraction.

 

Burble-wise, stereotypes as such may be generally true, that doesnt mean yours are.

 

I'm not reading what you are reading I guess.

I didn't say that all women, have a lack of courage to make the first move.

In fact, I said if they did, I would turn them down. Implication, some do.

Now what I did imply, is that those women who do typically make the first move, and initiate contact, are typically pushy, naggy, controling women.

And I would agree with the first poster there, that this is a matter of personal experience. I've met numerous men who end up with controlling pushy women, and they complain about those women constantly.

And I always ask, how did you meet? And the answer at least 3/4th of the time is, they were doing something, and the girl asked them if they wanted to go out.

Additionally, my own limited interactions with such women, has been much the same. The ones that I go to them, and introduce myself, are the nice, friendly, enjoyable girls. The ones that came to me and introduced themselves to me, are the pushy, 'oh no you dinnt', snap your fingers, and make demands women.

Personal experience, is just that. But as far as I'm concerned, the moment a girl takes the initiative to introduce herself, I automatically assume she is the pushy demanding type, and deny her instantly. If I'm interested in you, I'll come to you. Otherwise, the moment you say something, you are on my rejection list.

And BTW... even the guys who have these girls, and complain about them, they seem to like pushy nagging controlling women. More power to them. If that is what they want (even if they whiny about it constantly), then let it be so. If that's what works for them, go be a kept man for some demanding women.

I typically find this in Cougar situations, where the older women (often with more wealth), wants a docile helpless boy to keep around like a pet. I realize some might find that insulting, but I don't mean it to be. It's just my limited observations. But these guys seem to like that. Well... more power to them. Go be the boy toy for some controlling lady if that's what you want. (although the failure rate of these types of relationships is typically high).

 

Women always make the first move. Most men just don't know it.

Those that do get lots and lots of sex.

 

Actually that's not statistically true. In fact, most of the men who talk about how much sex they are getting, generally get very little sex.

The research shows that men who are married, often have more sex than those who are single. Of course the single guys will deny that, but this is what the research shows.

 

Someone missed the point entirely.

 

As I said most men don't know that most women make the first move. So most men don't have much sex. They dont know how the play the game. They don't even know the rules of the game.

Women choose, not men. Women make the first move. However, the vast majority if men are oblivious to it. They chase women rather than hunt. They see a girl that is attractive and they go up and try to buy her a drink and talk to her. This doesn't work. She didn't choose you.

Its a simple game that most men cant play.

Go into any place doesn't have to be a bar or club just a public place with women. Instead of looking around for women that you find attractive just sit back and open yourself up.

Try to be perceptive of everything around you.

Look for women who are choosing you.

When you get a strong signal look at her.

She will look away.

Keep looking at her.

She will look back.

Smile at her.

She will smile back.

Grab your balls like you got a pair and approach.

Some people like to say at this point that its game on. Wrong! The game is over.

 

That's what I thought until I started internet dating. I was a very passive guy and I soon learned that unless you make the first move and take control you won't get anywhere with women. I'm not trying to back up the guy who started this thread. I'm nothing like him, but I can tell you almost definitively that women rarely make the first move. I'm more confident of this than just about anything else that I know.

 

It is more that women are protecting themselves from predators. They listen first. They have to understand who you are and if you value who they are.

 

What special treatment do women get?

 

I went to the library and followed your advice. Everything was going great until I approached her whilst grabbing my balls. In retrospect I probably should have stuck to smiling and avoiding groping myself in the library. For some reason they frown upon that.

 

So e people dont get figures of speach.

A simple hello would have been better.

 

it sure would be over, if a guy grabbed his balls and swaggered over to me. ugh.

 

All fooling aside. Would you feel good or bad if you were giving signals to a guy you found attractive yet he was totally oblivious.