MSNBC medical contributor tells Americans to start wearing masks again after uptick in COVID hospita

That is incorrect.

 

Read Dowd's book. There you will find documentation of adverse effects including deaths of children which occurred immediately after vaccine administration.

 

Evasion. This thread is another comedy from a conspiracy theorist. Unable to even supply a simple "YES" or "NO" - instead we get the crap that it's already been "done"!
You are completely boxed in. Your claims do not support the data and answering that question will show this. That is why you cannot answer it.

1. Supply the "real world" data! HERE!
2. Are you claiming that a massive worldwide surge of existing preconditions suddenly occurred and that the covid-19 virus was not the cause? YES OR NO!

 

AFM: "I have never made the claim that only people with CDC preconditions died from Covid."

AFM: "The fatalities were the result of the preconditions. Healthy people are at very low risk to the virus."

Do you get the feeling we are being given the run around here?

 

And you pull quotes out of context and provide no post number.

 

Absolutely. The evidence is there.

I thought this forum doesn’t allow misinformation. Seriously, all his posts should be removed.

Anyways, for your reading enjoyment:

A Thorough Debunking of COVID-19 Contrarianism: https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/10/a-thorough-debunking-of-covid-19-contrarianism

 

Go upthread. All the information has been posted.

 

If you want to see the post where you made the claim, click on the up-arrow beside your username in the quote. You obviously said it, do you think people are going to believe you, when proof of your own words is there for everyone to see?

 

It’s not information, it’s misinformation.

 

You posted that link seriously?

 

Hand-waving - Wikipedia

You don't even know what you are saying now and you just proved you don't properly read responses!
HERE!
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-covid-hospita.612421/page-22#post-1074537936

You actually quoted the damn thing in post #550 and ignored it. You made both statements proving that you are contradicting yourself.

PATHETIC. Absolutely pathetic. You've been caught now, everyone can see it. A simple yes or no and you can't even do that!
You are completely boxed in. Your claims do not support the data and answering that question will show this. That is why you cannot answer it.

1. Supply the "real world" data! HERE! Prove my source was discredited (nb. batshit sources do not suffice).
2. Are you claiming that a massive worldwide surge of existing preconditions suddenly occurred and that the covid-19 virus was not the cause? YES OR NO!

 

Those statements were pulled out of context. See posts 498 and 500.

“You are actually posting the discredited Imperial College of London computer model results??

Over 90% of the "covid" deaths had one or more of the serious CDC defined preconditions. They died of these serious preconditions.

How do you take away that transmission to older adults with CDC preconditions is Okay?”

 

I don't need to see either of those! You said it in THIS post:
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-covid-hospita.612421/page-21#post-1074535417
AFM: "Those models have discredited by the real world data. The fatalities were the result of the preconditions. Healthy people are at very low risk to the virus.
Transmission to healthy people is meaningless."

1. Supply the "real world" data! HERE! Prove my source was discredited (nb. batshit sources do not suffice).
2. Are you claiming that a massive worldwide surge of existing preconditions suddenly occurred and that the covid-19 virus was not the cause? YES OR NO!

Why are you so afraid to have your clearly fixed worldview shown to be wrong!?
Everyone can see why you can't respond to these 2 simple things! You have boxed yourself in and I am not going to let you off the very large hook you are on!

Your claims do not support the data and answering that question will show this. That is why you cannot answer it.

 

I have posted the information and the sources.

You have proven that your actions here in this thread with regard to taking statements out of context is dishonest and obvious for all who are interested to see.

 

When debating on a forum there will be times when the same argument is presented that has previously been addressed. It is so very simple to link to where this occurred, or in the case of a single word answer, such as yes or no, to provide it.

What we are seeing here clearly demonstrates how somebody can tie themselves in knots by contradicting themselves or by making statements that undermine their own claims. Somebody says "The fatalities were the result of the preconditions." and "I have never made the claim that only people with CDC preconditions died from Covid.", it's fairly obvious we aren't going to get a concession that they were wrong. It's also why they cannot explain why IC hospital wards all around the world began to be rammed to capacity and all staff taking precautions not to catch the virus that all occupants had contracted!

 

“Over 90% of the "covid" deaths had one or more of the serious CDC defined preconditions. They died of these serious preconditions.”

 

Yes and their cause of death was Covid infection, they died because their underlying health conditions made them more vulnerable. They would still be alive if they hadn’t contracted the virus. Many of the health conditions were not life threatening, they were chronic. So again, post credible information that supports your opinion. Your use of the word “serious“ is not correct, you might want to review the list of conditions I posted earlier in the thread.

 

Please review the list published by the CDC.

 

The other 10% died of what exactly? Show where you have determined the cause of death on the many MILLIONS of people who contracted covid-19, the CAUSE of their hospitalization!

THIS is why you cannot answer the simple question. People were admitted to hospital with virus symptoms from covid-19, the ones with weakened systems FROM pre-existing conditions were most at risk of dying.

Do you think it an act of somebody honest to refuse to answer simple request? Show everyone where you have supplied the "real world" data! And show where my source is discredited! Tell everyone how you think it honest when you fail to answer a simple yes/no question.
Show everyone where you have answered this: Are you claiming that a massive worldwide surge of existing preconditions suddenly occurred and that the covid-19 virus was not the cause? YES OR NO!

 

Why don't you stop being evasive and YOU supply it! Are you now saying CDC data is credible? Or are you doing what every conspiracy theorist does, pick bits that work for your claim, devoid of context/causation/correlation and wave away the ones that don't as being "discredited" with no source for this!

 

I posted a list earlier on the thread. You can read them here — https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/201...children with obesity,very sick from COVID-19.

 

Obesity is one of the pre conditions. That was the subject of a commercial aired earlier this year using a celebrity spokesman.

 

Are you saying they were all admitted to intensive care because of their weight?

 

Obesity puts one at greater risk. I guess all of a sudden it causes pneumonia.

 

Yep. You got my meaning.