New WHO Report on Covid

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Ah! Someone with a Trumpian understanding of meteorology!

    Btw NOT a compliment unfortunately
     
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    Yeah! Suuuure!
    The WHOis panicking over nothing and some anonymous poster on the Internet is sure they have the facts!!,

    Excuse me if I would rather listen to the World Health Organisation
     
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    Been thru as many if not more Hurricanes than you I would wager. Not really needing your approval on how they go :)
     
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    Do as you please.

    I tend to shy away from any of the "World" groups myself. They tend to be a bit over dramatic in words and under dramatic in results.
     
  5. Bowerbird

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    Is that because they have enacted quarantine measures or is it a natural phenomenon
     
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    Southern Hemisphere - cyclones and you would lose that bet
     
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    But if they underplayed a risk would they not be doing a disservice to the world?
     
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    Bill Gates calls the COVID-19 a once in a century pathogen with a fatality rate greater than the 1957 influenza pandemic that killed 66,000 people in the U.S. One aspect of the COVID-19 infection that concerns me
    is the fact that reinfections of the virus can occur within a month or so after an initial infection because patients do not often develop a strong or long lasting antibody response. Also, 80% of those infected experience a mild disease or no apparent symptoms so it is impossible to isolate the infected individuals without testing everyone and the tests often produce false negatives.

    From the Business Insider, https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-risk-of-reinfection-2020-2

    But in the case of the new coronavirus, according to Zhan, doctors don't think the antibodies patients develop are strong or long-lasting enough to keep them from contracting the disease again.

    "Once you have the infection, it could remain dormant and with minimal symptoms, and then you can get an exacerbation if it finds its way into the lungs," Philip Tierno, a professor at the NYU School of Medicine, told Reuters.
     
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    I did, just thought it was funny.
     
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    Ever since the experts / slash media was unfairly accused of under playing Hurricane Katina we have seen a reversal where now they over play everything. They are so fearful of being accused of not ringing the alarm bell loud enough that they damn near break it now they ring it so hard.

    It's a natural reaction by them after they took such a beating from the fools who did not evac from NOLA, I've just tune it out now :)
     
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    Texas Gulf Coast. I would not.
     
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    Who knows for sure, I would guess a mixture of both myself. Either way the virus is not running wild in China any longer. It can be contained contrary to what some on here think :)
     
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    They're panicking over funding, especially if this isn't half so bad as claimed. You can listen to whoever you. I will stick to facts presented, and those facts don't warrant this level of fearmongering...
     
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    Not many countries in the world are likely to enact the Draconian measures similar to what has happened in China. I think that these measures are the reason why the situation isn't far worse than it is and I
    think that it is naive for anyone to believe that the slowdown in new cases is a natural phenomenon. Read the NPR article to find out what restrictions on human freedom are necessary to achieve the kind
    of results that have occurred in China. The U.S. isn't going to do anything like
    this.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...china-is-locking-down-half-a-billion-citizens


    China has put more than half a billion people under partial or total lockdown in what it is calling an all-out "people's war" against the spread of the new coronavirus. It's equivalent to restricting the movement of the entire population of North America.

    To enforce sweeping quarantine measures over vast areas of the country, China has turned to a medley of low- and high-tech measures. Citizens are also financially rewarded for reporting those who fail to follow quarantine orders. These methods reflect a decades-long history of social control now being mobilized on an unprecedented scale.

    Researchers say it is too early to determine what effect these measures have had in containing the outbreak. A lack of accurate screening measures and a delayed response to the virus likely have blunted the efficacy of quarantines.

    Lockdown measures have been most severe in Hubei province, the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak with nearly three-fourths of the 75,000-plus confirmed cases (as of Thursday) in China.

    In the weeks since Jan. 23, when Wuhan, Hubei's capital city, prohibited anyone from leaving, government officials across the province have gradually ramped up efforts to keep residents inside their houses. Apartment compounds allowed people to go in and out through one gate, each household could only send one person out once every three days to purchase groceries, and everyone's temperature is checked upon entrance.

    But as the number of coronavirus cases continues to climb, Hubei officials have implemented more drastic policies on nearly 60 million residents.
     
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    And in Europe, professional sports matches are cancelled or playing in empty stadiums. In Switzerland, meetings of >1000 people are banned. So no trade shows, no conventions. Some towns in Italy are effectively quarantined or shut down.
    They are taking it seriously but the economic consequences will definitely be felt.
    I find it hard to believe that America will take similar steps, at least at the outset.
    It will be interesting to see if Europe is over reacting or if they are taking sensible steps.
     
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    I believe this is another deliberate to remove Trump and divert from the absolute clown show that the democrats have put on stage.
    Go, Bernie, everybodys favorite little communist.
     
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    It's one of the true evils of socialism and communism, it weakens the individual. When crap happens people turn to the govt instead of themselves and family to resolve it.
     
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    So? You want to argue that stat means that the flu is a bigger risk than coronavirus so far and in the immediate future? Agreed.

    Do you want to argue that stat means that the coronavirus is not a threat or will not be a bigger threat by the end of this year or next year? Disagree.
     
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    Good

    No, it will remain a threat just like the Asian flu, swine flu, Spanish flu, H1N1, Noro virus, Whooping cough, Bird flu (which was supposed to infect and kill much of the world in its day), Chikungunya, or any of the dozens of flu variants that have spread across the world during my lifetime.

    The difference now is, Donald J. Trump is POTUS and malcontent lefties in the DNC and the press cannot stand that fact so let's spread panic in hope of destroying the manufacturing capability, and financial markets across the country in yet another effort to prevent his re-election.
    What you will once again find, Trump will grow stronger as he reminds the American public what he said back in 2015, "let's bring our jobs and manufacturing back to America and diversify our supply chains around the world"
     
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    I would? How do you know that? I've been downplaying it myself since the first day. It is easy to panic people. Do you remember the Y2K panic. There were even large companies that named vice presidents in charge the Y2K IT "problem." Same think here. People love to foster panic.
     
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    If you want to. I wouldn't recommend the UN as a place to get any information. I ignore everything the UN does as a matter of course.
     
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    At what cost to the Chinese economy due to quarantines?

    If it does break out here and we start locking down cities like New York and Los Angeles, the economy is going to grind to a halt.
     
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    It could, depends on the infection rate.

    Reading report now it's be in WA state for up to 6 weeks. At this point it's not caused major issues there. So the screaming heads saying this was going to hit and shut down cities and states have so far been wrong. It has not.

    Trump is taking more steps to counter it, what else would the left like done?

    In the last 24 hours 0 deaths from this in the US, 7,000 + from other causes in the US.

    https://www.indexmundi.com/blog/index.php/2018/03/05/how-many-people-die-a-day-in-the-us/

    That should be kept in perspective.
     

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