NRA saved lives in Texas

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  1. OrlandoChuck

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    It most definitely does. Take side effects of meds.....how do you think they determine scientifically if they are significant
     
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    Sorry. Nope
     
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    Use your common sense, you know the theft and safety risks of disclosing you gun information to people you know.especially if they're standing on your porch.
    Would you be willing to risk your families safety, or at the very least, make your home a target for burglars?
     
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    If you can remember, we were talking about sample size. I just proved exactly how small the sample really is.
     
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    Why did any say yes? I thought you said none would by your extensive interviews
     
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    Yet many said yes. Why?
     
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    Read above, I intentionally said ALMOST no one, because I was being truthful in my experiences.

    With the tiny sample size, and smart gun owners not willing to engage in risk, the results are skewed. It all doesn't matter though, these polls are just estimates anyhow.
     
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    But it wasn't almost no one....was it?
     
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    We have no way of knowing how many gun owners said they don't have guns.

    If small samples are perfectly accurate, why do election results often see saw through out the reporting of results. Shouldn't we be able to accurately predict a winner after 0.000012% of the population has voted?
     
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    Surveys are not science, because there is no way of insuring that those taking part in the surveys are providing honest and accurate responses to the questions being presented. Science has no business recording false data. Chemical reactions are an example of science, because they are able to be proven, as chemicals do not change how they react simply because they wish to.
     
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    This is just sad
     
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    A person calls you on the phone, you have no way to really know who is calling or for what reason, why would you answer truthfully ?

    So how are the results of any unsolicited phone poll valid ?

    Because the results agree with you, an Anti Gun advocate ?
     
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    Science is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe.

    How do surveys fit into this definition?
     
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    How do they not?
     
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    They do not.

    Any study based on a random telephone survey of people, can be quite erroneous, perhaps wildly inaccurate.

    There is no possible way to verify the results of said survey.
     
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    Because of the "testable explanations" part.
     
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    Then you should agree that the DGU study by Kleck is a crock of ****
     
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    There is a taxonomy of science research some considered "stronger" than others. At the bottom of the pile is qualitative research, focus groups etc, surveys come in above that but not much more so then there is an increasing rigor until you get to double blind trials etc
     
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    Surveys where there is no reason to expect honest responses are not science.
     
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    Numbers would on the extreme end, sure, but they do exist.
     
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    And lastly, a class action lawsuit against Pharmaceutical companies that produced Thalidomide and other medications found to have side effects not predicted or discovered during the trials and FUNDED research.....
     
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    I never quote anyone really, there are quite enough verified accounts entered into evidence by the many Law Enforcement agencies here in the U.S..
     
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    Then explain this

    Why is DGU an American phenomena?

    Why is it not required elsewhere?
     

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