NYT casts doubt on Israel’s claims Gaza hospital attack

When will Hamas hand over the wreckage of the missile, so it can be identified?

Thought not.

 

Your article is behind a paywall...can you post the bits where the NYT claims the missile was Israeli?

 

If you sit and think, I'm bringing a good perspective on what's going on.

I love no limit holdem poker, and I look at every world situation as a poker hand, because it's on me to determine the truth, as it's clear all media has an agenda that often conflicts with the truth. When I'm in a poker hand, I have to examine my opponents' words, bets, and other actions because they form a general narrative on what cards they have. And I have to reexamine that narrative, and the adjustments to that narrative after each card that drops throughout the hand. So if it's the final bet of the hand, and my opponent bets all in, I have a series of narratives that my opponent has spun at each stage of the hand. I can use that information to determine if my opponent likely has one of the range of hands that beats me if I call his final bet. Let's say in a particular hand, what beats me is a pair of aces. Well, before I called, I would ask myself, "did my opponent's narrative in the beginning (preflop) match his behavior that someone with a pair of aces at that time would have had?" "Was he representing aces after the first cards dropped (the flop)?" And so on. I remember how he was acting at each stage in order to make my best guess as to whether I can win.

That's how I'm looking at this Israeli situation. I wasn't paying attention preflop. But after the Oct 7 attack (the flop), I have watched these leaders behind the podiums build their supposed narratives. And I will constantly reexamine their deeds and words as each shoe drops in this conflict. As if I were in a poker hand.

That's all I'm saying. I'm not 100% my narrative on what's happening is true, and I may have to adjust it if I get new information. I'm saying that it's likely Putin just played many Ukrainian supporters by persuading them to align with a country killing Ukranians. And they are falling for their enemy's propaganda. Including regarding this hospital explosion.

 

UK media is also saying that the Israelis have been lying about this bombing.

 

Islamist and Socialist UK media doesn't count.

 

Channel 4 news. They're fairly neutral.

 

I think it’s great it doesn’t even matter if it’s Israeli or Hamas: malfunctioning missile accidentally hits parking lot of hospital and burns a bunch of cars doesn’t actually matter as anything more than a pathetic piece of propaganda by whichever side gets to claim they’re innocent of firing it.

Ya’all are arguing over a weak sauce event you have to massage and make extra facts up about it just to turn it into crap piece of propaganda.

It’s a Fin hospital parking lot. Very few people died hence why there’s no bodies being displayed by Hamas. And it’s accidental one way or the other.


You pro Hamas people are better served touting the 2,000 dead babies Hamas claims have died. Oh right, that has zero evidence to support that too…

 

500 dead?

300 dead?

absolute lies.

 

Not seeing a need to, due to the excellent work by the NYT.
But you're free to go to Gaza and collect it.

Ah. Already busy with making the Israeli crime smaller.

 

You can't trust people who steal water pipes from the people and use them to make rockets, and then complain they dont have enough infrastructure.

 

Read the OP
"The Times cannot independently identify the type of projectile that was fired from Israel, though it was launched from an area known to have an Iron Dome defense system."

 

"The Times cannot independently identify the type of projectile that was fired from Israel, though it was launched from an area known to have an Iron Dome defense system. The Israeli military says it doesn’t fire Iron Dome interceptors into Gaza, and indeed the missile seen in the video may not have crossed over into Gazan territory.

Funny how you missed that part.

 

The preflop theme is that the Jewish state has been violently oppressing Arabs, destroying their economy, colonizing their lands, thieving their natural resources. And subsequently it caused the 1st intifada. And Hamas is a product of that 1st intifada, because the Jews -unprovoked as they were- refused to comply with international law in an upmost violent way.

And in the meantime. Israel has flat out lied that the missile that they pointed at as the culprit of the massacre at the hospital was a missile from Hamas. The NYT proved that missile, is an Israeli missile.

 

NYT says they do not know if the missile came from Gaza or Israel.

 

Hamas, Islamic Jihad, do not care about international law.

 

You can't trust people who colonize an other nation. We can see that they also lied about whose missile was flying around. Israel claimed it was a missile from Hamas. NYT proved them wrong. Big shock.

 

Read your own ****ing article, NYT can't even confirm the new projectile they're talking about crossed into Gaza ffs.

 

They do. Read the OP.

 

Israel says the missile caused the massacre at the hospital. You trust Israel. There are also no other missiles to see.
NYT proved it's an Israeli missile. Case closed.

 

Neither does Israelis considering their illegal settlements

 

See your own article: "The Times cannot independently identify the type of projectile that was fired from Israel, though it was launched from an area known to have an Iron Dome defense system. The Israeli military says it doesn’t fire Iron Dome interceptors into Gaza, and indeed the missile seen in the video may not have crossed over into Gazan territory.

Ron already pointed this out to you.

 

Israel does not say that. NYT says they dont know if the missile came from Israel.

 

So there you go.

It is ISRAEL who says may not which also means may have. Israel in other articles says this is the missile.
There are no other missiles flying around when this happened. So the only one is an Israeli one. Case closed.

Israel previously had an issue of that a soldier of theirs executed a rather famous reporter. And after denying it endlessly and when reviewing independent research that points at that it must have been the Israeli soldier, they admitted that it also may be true. But they are refusing to hand over the gun to be sure.

Israel previously had an issue of blasting the civilian area with white phosphorus, in that case a WMD. After weeks of denying when the vids prove otherwise, Israel admitted to it.

That is Israel. Deny deny deny deny until you can not possible deny it more. So when they basically admit may have happened... that it's not a may. It did happen. Because with all that tech and info around what goes on. There certainly not a may this may that with a missile.

 

Article does not say that anywhere.

 

No it is the New York Times author who admits he cannot confirm what he's pointing out crossed into Gaza.
READ.