"Only in the USA."

Come ON, please. Keep to the facts. He*** was NOT FINED half a billion dollars. He*** was ordered to make restitution to the State (engorgement) for his ill gotten gains. The State lost those millions as a result of his fudging, and he*** has been ordered to make it up to the State.

For example ~ If I fudge on my tax returns, I not only get fined, I am also ordered to pay due tax avoided because of my fudging.

*Rapist
*Swindler
*Bordering on pathological

 

Gee, is that all? Little cherub isn't he***!

*Rapist
*Swindler
*Bordering on pathological

 

By not paying his contractors

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

He should have gone to prison for “Trump University” and had he pulled that scam in Aus he would have

 

Bunkum! There are a multitude of legal methods to evaluate properties

 

No he was adjudicated to gave been one

 

No, no, and no. He wasn't even accused of tax fraud. He was accused of defrauding banks who promptly said they were not defrauded. It was a made up crime which is precisely why the fine is so high they are doing every thing they can to keep it out of the appeals court. Because they know that once it gets there the whole sham will be revealed and the case quickly dismissed.

 

Yup. And the fact remains... TRUMP HAS NEVER BEEN CONVICTED OF ANY CRIME IN ANY CRIMINAL COURT IN THE NATION.

 

You are preaching to the converted about Humpty*** never having been convicted, so far. But facts are:

*Rapist
*Swindler
*Bordering on pathological

 

Rapist? Trump has NEVER been convicted of that in any criminal court in the nation.
"Swindler"? Trump has NEVER been convicted of that in any criminal court in the nation.
"Pathological"? That's not even a crime, its just an opinion.

 

Yep, but he has been found to be a rapist. Inarguable. It is fact.

Correct. I just can't work out why he has been ORDERED by a Court to cough up about $M500 is he was not a swindler. Can you help me out here?

Correct. Just like the comments by Hur were an ill informed crap amateur opinion, worth nothing.

 

He was "found" to be a rapist by a liberal judge that said he was after the court proceedings were over. Just another citizen's opinion... not a CRIMINAL COURT JUDGEMENT in any way, shape or form. No FACT at all... just another liberal opinion.

Good question on the $500 Million. Especially since no one was "swindled" out of a dime.

Hur's comment aren't legally binding either.

 

No. A Jury made that finding of sexual assault. The Judge explained the sexual assault to be rape within the legal definition of the term, rape.

Except the good old citizens of New York and the USA, and his*** insurers and his*** lenders.

Correct, but they are quoted here and at large as though they had value, yet the truth is they have no greater value than Engoron's finding that Humpty*** is 'bordering on pathological.'

*Rapist
*Swindler
*Bordering on pathological

 

Groovy Wade wasn't thrown under the bus it was a 10th amendment ruling there's nowhere in the Constitution where it says into the federal government gets to be in charge of how your state those portions so by constitutional law roe v Wade can't happen.

 

Oh, a 10th Amendment ruling?

Gee whiz, can you tell me why the Judge made ZERO reference to the 10th Amendment? Can you tell me why not one of the Attorneys for the many Defendants referred to the 10th Amendment?

 

A CIVIL COURT CANNOT CONVICT ANYONE OF A FELONY. That court was a CIVIL COURT. The CIVIL CASE found Trump LIABLE FOR DAMAGES IN THAT CIVIL COURT... which is a whole different animal than being FOUND GUILTY OF A CRIME.

How, exactly, were the citizens of New York "swindled". How did they lose anything? Please explain. The banks that you say were "swindled" by Trump don't feel swindled at all. They want to give him more loans:
- "Banker involved in big loans to Trump’s company testifies for his defense in civil fraud trial" (Banker involved in loans to Trump’s company testifies in civil fraud trial | AP News)
- Deutsche Bank MD testifies on Donald Trump inflating his net worth | Fortune
- Trump’s $287M loans that he did not pay were forgiven (yahoo.com)
- Deutsche Bank Gained Lucrative Business From Trump, Former Executive Testifies (msn.com)

 

Do they need to it wasn't enumerated in the Constitution. It is a state issue. It should have never been anything but a state issue.

 

But.....but...it was, and no-one mentioned the 10th. Can you think of a good reason why? I can.

 

Yes, yet again, we are in violent agreement. The civil Court found him*** liable for disgorgement etc BECAUSE he*** is a swindler. Simple as that. Just like that civil Court in E.J. Carroll v Trump found him*** liable to pay damages to her BECAUSE they found him*** to be a rapist.

Everyone was swindled by him***. The Banks because they gave him*** more favourable interest rates based on his*** bullshit claims. The Insurers because they gave him favourable rates based on the same bullshit. The citizens of NT because they were robbed of State taxes arising out of his*** bullshit claims. I could go on and on, but I suspect it would be falling on deaf ears.

He*** swindles University students, he*** swindles the donors to charity. He*** is a grub.

*Rapist
*Swindler
*Bordering on pathological

 

Did you see my links? They are all from banks that you say were swindled. THEY don't agree.
Again, a CIVIL COURT cannot CONVICT ANYONE OF A CRIME. ERGO, NO CIVIL COURT CAN CONVICT TRUMP OF FRAUD OR RAPE. IT SIMPLY CANNOT BE DONE. DO YOU THINK TRAFFIC COURT CAN CONVICT SOMEONE OF MURDER? I ASSUME YOU DO.

 

That is why Trump is giving up the cash instead of going to prison.

doesn't change the fact that Trump directed, approved, and benefitted from the FRAUD.
Same as with Trump-U.
Same as the charity fraud.

 

He did so to obtain fraudulent loans.

A crime.

You can have your own opinion but you may not have your own facts.

 

A real judge
In a real court
Decided otherwise...

The defense is "yeah, we committed fraud but since no one got hurt it's not a crime."

That was the defense Trump presented in September when BOTH SIDES AGREED that fraud was committed.

I cannot understand why you think "yeah, we committed fraud but since no one got hurt it's not a crime."

Is a valid argument.

 

Exactly how did the state lose millions? Show me in their expenses where they lost millions due to inflation of his real estate holdings.

 

He did not force the banks to make those loans. They agreed with his appraisals and made the loans and made money in the process.

 

That makes my point. Do all of those multitude of methods to evaluate always come up with the same answer?