Other than claims of increased public safety, is there any other argument for gun control

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Other than crime control is there any legitimate argument for gun control

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  2. Yes-and tell us in a response

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  1. Vegas giants

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    Dismissed. Come back when you have some evidence
     
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    You CAN have a free society and still have restriction on guns

    In fact in the society I live in we have reduced mass shootings down to almost zero over the last 20 years - imagine no "Sandy Hook" tragedies
     
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    Are 9mm handguns still legal with 10 round magazines? The Virginia Tech style tragedy is still possible, and that was worse than Sandy Hook.
     
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    And yet despite claiming such over and over again, not so much as even one piece of this so-called evidence has ever been presented by yourself. Out of this supposed "ton of evidence" be it metaphorical or literal, not even one piece has been presented for the purpose of silencing false claims. Instead it is demanded that those who do not believe such undertake the task of seeking out the supposed proof for themselves, which is an indicator that such does not exist.

    Since no evidence is ever presented, then no evidence actually exists. It stands to reason that no evidence exists, because no accredited researcher wishes to actually put their good name on the line, by supporting such blatant nonsense which can easily be discredited by someone who knows what they are doing. These individuals learned from the Carl Bogus debacle, and do not wish to experience the same fate as himself.
     
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    How does requiring the owner of a gun to keep it secure prevent that owner from removing that gun from its secure container, as owners have the ability to do, and using it in a massacre? The VT shooter was the owner of his guns, as we're nearly all of the shooters in our massacres.
     
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    There is lots of evidence. It has been presented. You have zero evidence for your plan by the way
     
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    If those restrictions infringe upon the ability of a citizen to defend themselves with appropriate tools, then you do NOT have a free society.

    Sandy Hook didn't have to happen, and gun control wasn't needed to prevent it. Acknowledgement of reality and enabling school personnel to respond effectively would have ended that tragedy before it started.
     
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    It is like that great Home Defense Gun, or that Great Truck Gun, most of those Arms will be locked up, unloaded, and inaccessible when the time comes that you desperately need it.

    That lowly holstered underpowered sidearm, Will often be the only game in town, when that big OK Coral incident occurs.
     
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    How is such a requirement actually enforced? Does law enforcement possess the authority to conduct random, warrantless inspections of the homes of registered firearm owners, in order to insure the requirement is actually being complied with?
     
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    There is not.

    It has not. Show where it has been presented.

    Demonstrating the fallacies being presented by yourself does not require evidence, only a basic understanding of the rules of grammar.
     
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    The firearms used in the Sandy Hook incident were stored in a locked safe. Up until the moment they were taken out and utilized for the purpose of committing mass murder.
     
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    In the U.K. it does, no Warrant needed for searches.
    Part of the License agreement gives permission for searches.

    Same thing here with BATF and Gun Shops, they can inspect you during Business hours with no Warrant needed.
     
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    Unless such is in place in the nation of Australia, such comparisons are moot.
     
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    You know that Australia is a mirror image of United Kingdom policies, let us not be obtuse.
     
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    Nope sorry you are wrong
     
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    It works great!
     
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    I agree!
     
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    Less fulfilling!
     
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    Less filling too !
    Tastes great !
     
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    And yet it cannot be demonstrated as to how. It can only be claimed, and claims are not evidence. Since no evidence has ever been presented, not ever been referred to by name, it does not exist. Stop wasting the time of others with the repeated claims of that which does not exist.
     
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    Even then the requirement cannot be enforced, as anyone who intends to commit a mass killing, or simple suicide, can simply remove the firearm in question at that moment in time, and proceed accordingly.
     
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    But of course !

    Hence why we say waiting periods do not reduce suicides.
     

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