Oxford study: millions may have already built up coronavirus immunity

Well, it's definitely good to know that Fauci has revised his estimate downwards. If he's right, and there are only 60,000 deaths, that wouldn't even be close to 0.3% of the U.S. population. 60,000/330,000,000 = 0.0001818 repeating. Which translates to just 0.0182% of the population, or 182 Americans per million. New York State has already gone through worse- its current rate is 440 deaths per million and it now accounts for 43.5% of all deaths by Covid 19 in the U.S.

 

Well, the U.S. now has more confirmed deaths due to covid than any other country. It's a large country though- in terms of deaths per million, it's still not in the top 10 (It's 14). Here's the countries with the most deaths per million:



Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

 

As part the general American population 60,000 is not even worth measuring in percentage form IMO. Still a big number but a very minimal percentage.

As part of C19 infected Americans 60,000 is going to land somewhere between 0.20% low end and 0.6% high end.

But then the left will come out with the "untold 1000s of those who died of C19" but where the cause of death was never listed as C19. They are already hints of that in the media. Anything to drive up that C19 death count!

 

I would be interested to see honest numbers from North Korea. Never will though. I'm sure boy man king is curing everyone personally.

 

Over the last 20 years, it's been depressing watching how quickly and how willingly Americans were willing to relinquish their basic rights because of the boogie man that's under the bed. This is like I am watching a replay of 9/11 and the Patriotic Act, from which we still have not recovered out basic freedoms.

We are no longer "the land of free" but we certainly are "the home of the slave". This nation joined the world in a flashback to our ancient cave dwelling ancestors that huddled in masses in the dark, frozen in fear from whatever their imagination spawned may be there. And when we make it through the night, man cowers and genuflects at the alter of their new god and slave masters called "government" to heap praise and thanks.

Government has lifted out of now where. Government has killed, enslaved and infringed upon the rights of people more than any other creation of man. Government is a band of ruling elite slave masters doing what is best for their interests.

The Great American Experiment is dead, killed by an ungrateful people who are scared of the dark.

 

Oh yeah .. your personal 'basic freedoms' are so much more important than the survival of your nation.

 

I do not think it's dead. There is a large part of this great country that refuses to cower in fear at the thunder.

 

Survival of the nation? Over dramatic BS and a moronic thing to say. This virus never endangered the survival of America.

God help you if there is ever really a issue that does, I can see you dropping into the embryo position where you are and shaking.

 

Sure, Iraq had WMD's but nobody could find them. Neither you nor the government can prove that arabs with box cutters hijacked 4 airliners that day.

You may fully embrace Goebbels' Maxim that if a lie is told a sufficient number of times it becomes true, but I do not.

Your affection for official narratives unsupported by facts is what you need to get by, but I don't buy into such nonsense told by known liars.

 

Good thing is that at least tin foil is not be hoarded, you can still make your hats...

 

Standard reply for one with all the facts against him.

 

You are the one make conspiracy claims. It’s not upon me to prove anything. That’s on you.

 

You don't realize it, but your blithe acceptance of the official conspiracy theory means that YOU too are into CT. You buy into an absurd story that is contradicted by all known facts, that is told by people known to be liars, and you accuse me of being the CT.

Don't worry sir, it's old news. You are only typical.

 

I can only imagine what other insanity that you believe.

 

Maybe, but I think you greatly over estimate the numbers. I think that we are a tiny, tiny minority.

 

I think the folks who do cower at every roll of thunder are just most vocal about their fear, they love to share the doom and gloom. Very evident with C19 on here.

The ones who just push thru the hills in life and keep moving forward like rational freedom loving adults feel it's normal to do so they do not vocalize it.

 

Observers of the human condition have a handle on this kind of denial, and understand it's driven by fear. When your terror is at a level where you can't even begin to process it, denial is the most efficient means of coping. When we pragmatists talk about practical solutions for beating the virus, that scares the living daylights out of you. You want (very badly) to believe the virus isn't a problem. Don't feel bad about it .. we're all responding differently. You should, however, feel bad about not doing your part in the interests of getting your country back on its feet sooner.

 

The positive, strong, determined, and optimistic fighters are those prepared to do whatever it takes to end this thing. We understand that a small sacrifice today, means freedom tomorrow.

It's those who refuse to make that small sacrifice who are responsible for any ongoing loss of freedom. Just like those who sat on their hands when their tribe tried to fight off marauding neighbours. It's cowardice and selfishness .. the worst combination in a war.

 

Without personal basic freedoms, there is no nation worth surviving

 

There isn't anything we are doing to stop this virus. And any flattening of the curve only serves to delay herd immunity and adds to the death toll for the most vulnerable.
Additionally, inflicting severe economic and social harm only causes misery for many millions more

 

News just in:

"Donald Trump's infectious diseases adviser says "there was a lot of pushback" to starting social-distancing measures earlier to curb the spread of COVID-19 in the US."

And what would PUSH BACK be, I wonder? Could it have been from Americans who refuse to help win this war because "muh freedoms"?

History will not be kind to those people. And rightly so.

 

Not beating this disease will remove your freedoms permanently. What do you want, a fast resolution with the least death and destruction .. or the satisfaction of your momentary freedoms?

 

Freedoms, once lost momentarily are often gone forever.

Patriot Act, anyone?

 

"Momentary freedoms". God, just elect the ghost of Joseph Stalin and be done with it.(Incidentally, Joe Biden's first name is actually Joseph.)

So yeah, here we go.

 

Nonsense. All such freedoms were lost during WWII, and were reinstated immediately upon the end of hostilities. And that's decades before the stronger brew of democracy we have today.