'Play it down': Trump admits to concealing the true threat of coronavirus in new Woodward book

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  1. rkhames

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    Again check your facts. Yes, Italy had more then 15,000 cases on March 12, when the President issued the travel ban from Europe, but a month before, February 12, there were no cases reported in Italy. So, again the data does not support your claim.
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/
     
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    And what was the claim that I was referring to? That the Travel ban from Europe should have been issued a month earlier. That ban is issued on March 12. Now how many cases were reported on February 12? Answer: 2. Maybe your the one that need to figure out how to read the chart.
     
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    I have explained my position. You don't like my opinion. Continuing to ask me to "explain" will not change my opinion.

    I would never sell my soul, but if I did, it wouldn't be over one sentence made by one world leader on one day in time.
     
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    2017-2018 Fall/Winter Flu Season

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    It was an anomaly, but it's not terribly unusual to lose 50,000 in a few short months when they flub the flu vaccine formula, and with our aging Baby Boomer Generation.
     
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    What’s unusual, a. or b.?

    a. Common Flu Hospitalization Fatality Rate; Less than 10%

    b. Covid19 Hospitalization Fatality Rate; Over 50%
     
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    Now do hospitalization rates for heart attacks and strokes.
     
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    Is heart disease and cancer contagious? I seem to recall Trump saying 2.5 million people would have died from COVID had drastic measures not been taken.
     
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    What’s unusual, a. or b.?

    a. Flu season; October - April

    b. Covid19; All seasons
     
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    Over 6 or 12 months?
     
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    Neither is unusual. Covid is a novel virus. We don't know what is "usual" or "unusual" about Covid until we experience it over time.
     
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    Sure. Yes.
     
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    Does it matter if you die from some contagious or not contagious?

    Who knows how many would have died if we hadn't banned travel from China, then Europe? Viruses usually start out at their most lethal. Over time they mutate and usually get more contagious and less lethal over time. We don't know about the Covid "future", but there have already been mutations which has made it easier to catch but less severe.
     
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    ~ I find it very suspicious that CDC has not released accurate statistics on this season's flu deaths / hospitalization - only to estimate it's "higher than usual. If masking everyone is so effective I would expect flu infection to be lower than usual.
    More evidence the "experts" are guessing.
    We need to open the economy , schools and small businesses - keeping travel bans in place . As Trump said : "It is what it is."
     
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    According to my reasearch, Covid19 Hospitalization Fatality Rate, higher than;

    Heart attack Hospitalization Fatality Rate
    Stroke Hospitalization Fatality Rate

    Rationale/logic;

    I googled percentage of surviving a heart attack/stroke, and I assumed all survivors were hospitalized.
     
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    It usually takes them about 3 years to stamp any data "finalized". 2019-2020 flu season will be a mess. After they started letting doctors call "probable Covid" without a test, any number accuracy flew out the window. If the virus was around in Oct-Dec when we had "no Covid", then those all got counted as "probable flu". All that data is worthless.

    It is time to open business, wear masks, social distance, wash hands....but get America back to work and school.
     
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    Okay. Thanks.
     
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    I couldn’t find; in 2019, how many were hospitalized for heart attacks/strokes?

    Logic; I then googled percentage of surviving a heart attack/stroke.....Bingo!

    Annually, approx. 650,000 deaths, millions are hospitalized for heart attacks/strokes
     
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    Quote; It is time to......

    Agree!

    Keep working
    Keep wearing masks
    Keep your distance

    A common sense strategy I’ve been promoting since the pandemic began.
     
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    You folks are pushing a policy that will kill MILLIONS

    Newsflash...the economy can't withstand that
     
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    That it was already here in the U.S. as early as summer of 2019, and undoubtedly even earlier than that. That wave of respiratory illnesses in hospital ERs across the country back in August of 2019 that the CDC was blaming on vaping and e-cigarettes was the CDCs way of saying “we don’t know what we are really dealing with, so we’re just going to pick a scapegoat that only affects a niche of the population.” Why would doctors in August 2019 attempt to diagnose COVID-19 symptoms when nobody knew what it was until December 2019? I cited the November 2019 pneumonia case because China was first describing COVID-19 as a “mysterious pneumonia.”
     
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    Save us the QAnon bullshit ok?
     
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    Are you counting the actual COVID-19 deaths or are you also including the COVID-related deaths; people who died of other causes but had COVID-19 in their systems? For example, George Floyd had COVID-19 in his system when he died from his fentanyl overdose.
     
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    What does COVID-19 have to do with rich, elitist Democrat pedophilia and child trafficking?
     
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    My favourite Aussie poster, Karnal, on an Aussie Forum talking to an American Member there.

     

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