Preventing access to the gun isn't necessarily going to prevent the murder

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by kazenatsu, Feb 18, 2019.

  1. Rucker61

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    i see stuff like your response in post #383, where you didn't try to refute the claim regarding Constitutional powers with any but "What a load of crock."

    If you actually have something, try to actually refute "If the Constitution doesn't give the government the power to do something, it doesn't have that power. Thus the government can do nothing to firearms manufacturers under the Constitution" with something from the Constitution or SCOTUS that shows that the government can shut down firearm manfacturers.
     
  2. Richard The Last

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    If you have no agenda, why are you here in the PF arguing about gun control and the Constitution? If I understood correctly, from other posts you have made, you don't even live in the US. Why do you care what we do.
     
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  3. dave8383

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    So you have to have an agenda to post in here?
     
  4. Richard The Last

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    No. No Dave, you don't. Did you somehow think that was a requirement? Sorry if you didn't understand that. Would you like a link to the Forum rules? I saw nothing in the rules that says a person must "have an agenda to post in here".
     
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    Then maybe you didn't understand what you said? This was your quote, "If you have no agenda, why are you here in the PF...?"
     
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    Just one more example of a corrupt court acting to protect governmental overreach against the rights of the people.

    My opinion will matter far more than yours when the totalitarians push the American people too far.
     
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    What I wrote was fact. And everything you write proves you are exactly what I name you to be.
     
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    Whatever you say, Bubba. I don't give an airborne fornication about the opinions of an enemy of the Constitution.
     
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    I don't care what you think. My stance and logic have been methodically laid out. You've ignored it and that's your problem. Have we got that settled? Now, enough of your side-stepping and personal grudges .....
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    Golly, what a winning question! I am a humanitarian. Do you know what that is?
     
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  13. Rucker61

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    "If the Constitution doesn't give you the power to decide what is false, then you don't have that power."
    "Thank you too, particularly for the tip: Once I eradicate all firearms I will begin my work to remove frying pans from the hands of women of wrath, God's creatures, I am told."
    "What does the Constitution say about gun manufacturers?"
    "* Gun nuts have no power of mind and intelligence so they pull the trigger instead:machinegun:"
    [Rucker61]"Under what Constitutional power does Congress have the authorization to limit production and distribution of firearms?"
    "Take your pick."
    [Rucker61]"What new laws do you want, that are Constitutional, that will protect you better?"
    "The ones that will prevent the gun industry from saturating the country would be a very good start in protecting you. Once you work on that come back and see me and I will give you a few more examples on how to protect me and the rest of the world from you."

    There's not a single bit of logic in any of these posts, and your methodology seems to be avoiding actually addressing one question by more deflection.

    Why do you think that the federal government has any power to prevent gun manufacturers from manufacturing a lawful product, and where specifically does that power derive?

    You know that the government can't prevent any non-prohibited individual from making guns for themselves, right?
     
  14. Richard The Last

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    No, I don't. Would you explain it to me.
     
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    Look in the mirror...bubba
     
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    Opinions opinions


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    Low-brow humor would suggest the phrase indicates a penchant for cannibalism.
     
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    THAT'S FUNNY!!!!!

    I had never thought of it that way. Thanks for the laugh.

    RIch
     
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    gun control is far more likely to disarm the honest people who are the intended victims of criminals, than criminals. Honest people tend to obey laws. Criminals are forced to follow the laws only after they are incarcerated
     
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    how does a government suddenly get the power to ban you from doing something after you have exercised your right a certain number of times?
     
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    There are a hundred examples of this
     
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    There are a hundred examples of this
     
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    You make the case that all laws are pointless
     
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    ANARCHY!
     
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    wrong-as usual. I make the point that criminalizing behavior that has been going on for decades-and which has not harming anyone-is really stupid
     
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