Preventing access to the gun isn't necessarily going to prevent the murder

Because "decades ago" the population of the State of Florida was much smaller than it is now. Of course, the same is true of all other states so from a statistical perspective, that is not relevant. As for a "violent person" who is "fairly rare", that is not something we should be legislating against when it comes to the rest of us. Serial killers who store the bodies of their victims of their victims into garage freezers are "fairly rare", but that doesn't mean that Uncle should prevent the rest of us from owning garage freezers.

 

I'm not saying anyone should do anything, I'm trying to say why you got the results you got, and the fact that that population of Florida was smaller back then supports my argument, which was that the population was too small for there to be enough crimes of that specific sort for the difference to show up

 

The population was 12 million when the law was passed and the population is currently 21 million, either way that is a large enough sample to determine if a particular law was effective or not.

 

OK, the law was ineffective. Proving yet again that half measures don't work, We need to get rid of all the guns, now.

 

That's a real stupid idea, because it would put at risk millions of law abiding citizens who would be left defenseless against the violent who live amongst us.

 

Which is an impossibility, both physically and practically, to say nothing of legally. Therefore it is a proposal that is not even worth discussing, and it is a waste of time to attempt discussing such.

 

"We"? Will you be stacking up with SWAT to take doors?

Who has gotten rid of all guns?

 

Go screw yourself, pal. Owning guns is a fundamental right, that has rightfully been embedded into our Constitution.

 

Molon Labe.

 

And can be prised out, that's why the Constitution has an Amendment process, though I don't think even that is really necessary. There are only 3 fundamental rights, Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Gun ownership is not necessary to any of them

 

Oh pshaw, How did people defend themselves before guns were invented?

 

Wrong.

If you have a right to Life, then you have the right to defend your life, and as such the right to possess the most effective means of conducting that defense. That means an attack on my ability to defend myself is an attack on my right to life itself.

 

Through the use of the most effective arms available for the purpose at the time. There was a time when the best tool for defense was a sword; but once guns were invented, the right to be armed encompassed them as well.

 

You should get your money back for your civics lessons.

 

It doesn't matter. They have been invented, and there is no undoing that. They are relatively simple mechanical devices, and it doesn't require a whole lot of skill to make one. Unless abused, they are durable and will last for a long time after having been made. Sorry.

 

Except for the fact it has been documented that firearms ownership is indeed necessary for all three of them.

 

By killing anyone and everyone that was deemed a possible threat, or having someone do it for them. Similar to today but in far more barbaric fashion, where setting fire to an entire neighboring village was considered a valid tactic.

 

How is that?

 

I'm talking about after the invention of civilization

 

While simultaneously asking what was done before the existence of firearms. The first viable firearms were produced during the time of armored knights, thus making them a device that stretches all the way back to the medieval era.

 

Life. Firearms are used for the purpose of self defense countless thousands of times in the united states.

Liberty. Firearms ownership is beneficial to those who serve in the military, as they do not need remedial training to know how to operate a firearm, and thus have far greater knowledge on the battlefield than someone who has never held a firearm prior to their service.

Pursuit of happiness. Be it hunting, target practice, competition, or simply preventing oneself from being victimized by another for no legitimate reason, having a firearm aids in achieving such greatly.